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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SCORED THESE CONDENSERS TODAY, they are in the post! cant wait to mock them up!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/pts/2346043528.html

I just saw this post on the San Diego CL. Too bad I don't have the extra cash on hand to pick it up, maybe someone here can benefit from it...
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/pts/2346043528.html

I just saw this post on the San Diego CL. Too bad I don't have the extra cash on hand to pick it up, maybe someone here can benefit from it...


gilmore enterprises is a little different, sits really low too. I checked on this one on craigslist and it is not the correct system.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone else have any a/c literature, manuals, parts lists or pictures to add? please do!!
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got this pair of condensers today in the mail
-now im really excited to get this put together on my car!
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

got the brackets all figured out on the condensers- missing 2 (1 for trans mount cradle and 1 long outside bracket to the body near the shock) i then tried fitting it up, and then realizied that my camber compensator willbe in the way, was able to flip thte front bracket that bolts up to the trans nose cone nount bolts and will have to adjust some other brackets, but it will sit nice and clear of the axles now instead of under them.

one thing that sucks is one pipe has a crack near the fitting so that will have to be soldered at an a/c repair shop. anyhow, heres some pics of the way the brackets all go IN SITU on the car

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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my 1965 Standard originally cam with A/C but someone had taken it out when I got it Sad
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well the primary condenser was damaged in shipping - (SON OF A B#($*), so i went about repairing it.
I swagged some 3/8 inch copper pipe and then cut it down and grinded down the other end so i had some home made reducer fittings. they slipped in the original thin 3/8 inch pipe, and the fitting slipped inside
then I soldered up the joints and pressure tested it- ready for a new lease on life in my convertible. heres some pics. ill have to take one of the finished condenser. next step is to soda blast the whole outside clean, and repaint the motor and brackets- then it will be all ready for installation.
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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone else here have a/c in their beetle
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a A/C system in my car... I am just reading this post and (By the way were I live is really Hot city) for experience this type of condenser are no very effective! If you can buy a condenser mexican style who is installed in the backside of the car is better, is a most effective installation and you can find this part original and new.
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a A/C system in my car... I am just reading this post and (By the way were I live is really Hot city) for experience this type of condenser are no very effective! If you can buy a condenser mexican style who is installed in the backside of the car is better, is a most effective installation and you can find this part original and new.


I have the originals now, but tell me more about these Mexican ones!
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Henrip wrote:
I have a A/C system in my car... I am just reading this post and (By the way were I live is really Hot city) for experience this type of condenser are no very effective! If you can buy a condenser mexican style who is installed in the backside of the car is better, is a most effective installation and you can find this part original and new.


I have the originals now, but tell me more about these Mexican ones!


It is a big condenser installed in the backside of the car, the only modification is two holes that you have to drill one in the air intake of the motor compartment and is the entry for cool air of the fan and the other one is in the floor for the hot air out of the condenser.

Sorry I do not have any photos of my system as soon as I am can, I take a couple of shots, so you can see how the system works.
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Henrip wrote:
guteandtite wrote:
Henrip wrote:
I have a A/C system in my car... I am just reading this post and (By the way were I live is really Hot city) for experience this type of condenser are no very effective! If you can buy a condenser mexican style who is installed in the backside of the car is better, is a most effective installation and you can find this part original and new.


I have the originals now, but tell me more about these Mexican ones!


It is a big condenser installed in the backside of the car, the only modification is two holes that you have to drill one in the air intake of the motor compartment and is the entry for cool air of the fan and the other one is in the floor for the hot air out of the condenser.

Sorry I do not have any photos of my system as soon as I am can, I take a couple of shots, so you can see how the system works.


ahhh ok you have the parcel shelf system. sounds nice to keep it kinda hidden, but i like the under dash unit better. i like the a/c to blow on me directly!
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Henrip wrote:
guteandtite wrote:
Henrip wrote:
I have a A/C system in my car... I am just reading this post and (By the way were I live is really Hot city) for experience this type of condenser are no very effective! If you can buy a condenser mexican style who is installed in the backside of the car is better, is a most effective installation and you can find this part original and new.


I have the originals now, but tell me more about these Mexican ones!


It is a big condenser installed in the backside of the car, the only modification is two holes that you have to drill one in the air intake of the motor compartment and is the entry for cool air of the fan and the other one is in the floor for the hot air out of the condenser.

Sorry I do not have any photos of my system as soon as I am can, I take a couple of shots, so you can see how the system works.


ahhh ok you have the parcel shelf system. sounds nice to keep it kinda hidden, but i like the under dash unit better. i like the a/c to blow on me directly!


Remember the condenser in your car is this.

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And the evaporator (where the cool air blow) is this.

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My condenser is installed behind the backseat (Sorry still no photos)
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henrip wrote:
guteandtite wrote:
Henrip wrote:
guteandtite wrote:
Henrip wrote:
I have a A/C system in my car... I am just reading this post and (By the way were I live is really Hot city) for experience this type of condenser are no very effective! If you can buy a condenser mexican style who is installed in the backside of the car is better, is a most effective installation and you can find this part original and new.


I have the originals now, but tell me more about these Mexican ones!


It is a big condenser installed in the backside of the car, the only modification is two holes that you have to drill one in the air intake of the motor compartment and is the entry for cool air of the fan and the other one is in the floor for the hot air out of the condenser.

Sorry I do not have any photos of my system as soon as I am can, I take a couple of shots, so you can see how the system works.


ahhh ok you have the parcel shelf system. sounds nice to keep it kinda hidden, but i like the under dash unit better. i like the a/c to blow on me directly!


Remember the condenser in your car is this.

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And the evaporator (where the cool air blow) is this.

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My condenser is installed behind the backseat (Sorry still no photos)


Yes I'm very aware of what the condenser and evaporator are and how it all works now. The system you have is all in one spot and is called a package shelf system, like in Mexican beetles.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be the old JC penny selfcontained kits that sit in the parcel tray.
I've posted the link to the old mag Ive got on them somewhere in this thread already I think.

Some setups like Mexican a/c have the condenser mounted to the firewall and the engine fan pulls air through it.

Theres a Japanese import beetle getting around here with original dealer fitted A/C that has the same setup.

Stupid idea as it loads the engine up even more but it works.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello.
Really enjoying thies thread Very Happy
I have a 53 oval whitch i´´m planing to install an A/C unit. My main concern is where will be placed the fresh air vents.... For mine doesn t seam to exist an after market option....
Any thoughts where to place them?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sl wrote:
Hello.
Really enjoying thies thread Very Happy
I have a 53 oval whitch i´´m planing to install an A/C unit. My main concern is where will be placed the fresh air vents.... For mine doesn t seam to exist an after market option....
Any thoughts where to place them?
Thanks, sergio[img]Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.[/img]

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I have never seen an underdash unit that was molded to fit under the oval dash. there was a unit made for a Ghia however that would be much easier to fit than a square window beetle era unit. The this unit will still require filing or fiberglass work to fit an oval. You could always fit up one behind the dash to come out the oval speaker grill, and maybe intake under the dash if you want it hidden. Earlier in this thread someone posted of a square unit to go under the dash that would be period correct for an oval, it's not VW specific, but is correct in that vw didn't offer a/c until 68, and delanair like the one I have wasn't offered until 61. So in 57 your options were universal aftermarket a/c.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/under-dash-a-c-harr..._500wt_948

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KOOL-KING-CHARIOTEE...000wt_1739

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dealer-Installed-FR..._500wt_948

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Universal-AC-A-C-Un..._598wt_722

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-Under-Dash-A-C-...1e65adcaf7

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Bret,

What was the final outcome with your car? Did you get it installed and working yet?
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Today i went to the bodyshop where my car is being restored and stayed there just looking at the dash.... I really like it the way it looks! So i dicided to use the oval speaker grill as the exit for the fresh air.
By doing that i have another thing to think about..... <placing the evaporator in the bonet area i´ll have to make a ventilation gridd on the bonnet for the air outside the car can get into the system to be cooled... Confused
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