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Joey Samba Member

Joined: August 12, 2005 Posts: 3697 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:18 am Post subject: |
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4" Narrowed w/ shock towers with stock wheels will work fine. Yes, get drop spindles to maintain the correct geometry. A flip kit will help on bump steer. If you go more than two notches in the rear you'll need extension plates to correct the toe. Also, get some caster shims for the front beam as well. They go between the bottom torsion tube and the frame head. _________________ Joey
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tatersgravy Samba Member

Joined: October 11, 2004 Posts: 860
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:26 am Post subject: |
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pOrk Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2011 Posts: 345 Location: Wauwatosa, Wi
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| Joey, thanks! Whos the best to buy through? I'd like to buy everything I need so when I start I'm not running out of parts, and I'd like to do it right the first time so anyone who you could suggest to start ordering parts through? |
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touchdowntodd Samba Member

Joined: April 13, 2009 Posts: 285 Location: milwaukee
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:43 am Post subject: |
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eric, remember if you get a flip kit you need to get later tie rod ends (the larger ones)
we both gotta find someone that does a good alignment locally _________________ mine - '65 6vt 40hp, 5.5" beam, Spindles, BRMs, etc
project with dad - '62 pan'd manx copy body 6vt 40hp.. |
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pOrk Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2011 Posts: 345 Location: Wauwatosa, Wi
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:12 am Post subject: |
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| added a few more pictures too |
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zozo Samba Member

Joined: October 15, 2005 Posts: 4145 Location: In cahoots, south o' San Antone
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:24 am Post subject: |
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| pOrk wrote: | | I didn't buy a bug to take to the elitist car shows and have pissing contests over GERMAN vs NON-GERMAN aftermarket parts etc. |
I don't drive a stock VW for any of that either. No one was flaming you, why do you feel the need to cop an attitude and lash out at the (us) stock guys? |
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pOrk Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2011 Posts: 345 Location: Wauwatosa, Wi
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| Not lashing out, just not interested in keeping my car stock. Simply pointing out I'm no elitist and not interested in car shows, just a fun driver. |
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woodyracing Samba Member

Joined: May 13, 2008 Posts: 60 Location: Madera, CA
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| pOrk wrote: | I'm having a hard time trying to figure out what I NEED to buy to lower this car the right way. There are soo many options on this site for beam replacements etc its starting to hurt my head.
I'm thinking I want to go 4" Narrowed w/ shock towers, I want to run stock wheels so that should be enough correct? Also do I need drop spindles to maintain the correct geometry? Also do I need a flip kit for same reason? And the only thing I found for the rear is a plate to correct toe, right? |
4 inches is alot. Unless you want to go real low. How low do you want it? drop spindles will improve your ride as the adjusters on the beam don't have to be adjust way down. I have a 2 inch beam from CB performance with drop spindles and i'm pretty low and have no rubbing issues with 15x5.5 wheels and 135's. for the rear, just have to adjust the spring plates on the torsion bars, but there are some offset spring plates for sale. Do a search on how to all the above. Many threads here that will help you. |
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pOrk Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2011 Posts: 345 Location: Wauwatosa, Wi
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Alright I bought a 3" adjustable beam, 2" drop spindles, new leaves and tierods, drop shocks, king and link pins, and 4" JerFab drop plates. Having a hard time searching for info on the flip kit? Anyone know where to look? |
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pOrk Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2011 Posts: 345 Location: Wauwatosa, Wi
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 10:52 am Post subject: |
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Finished painting the beam and got the shocks back on. I think these are custom drop shocks from Airkewld so no idea on what drop they are set up for, I emailed the guy I bought the front end from so hopefully he has some insight for me. Maybe they will work for me, maybe not?
Anyways, here's the beam and a photo of each adjuster. No idea which way I have to go with adjusters yet, still waiting on drop spring plates before installing. Any advice?
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pOrk Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2011 Posts: 345 Location: Wauwatosa, Wi
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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Drilled out the tie rod mounts on my drop spindles today, still waiting on bushings
And drilled/tapped this cast aluminum skull I've had sitting around forever to use as a shift knob. A little cheesy, but I like it:
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pOrk Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2011 Posts: 345 Location: Wauwatosa, Wi
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Didn't unload my camera yet, so far these are just phone pics. Heres one the wife took on thursday:
We had to shorten the tierods 2 inches on both sides as the ones that came with the new front end were way wrong. Something is funny with the carb so I dropped that off at MOFOCO to get tested and see what the deal with the electric choke is, and in the mean time I'm trying to track down a new master as mine is leaking like a siv. Also having problems with the front end binding still not positive what the deal is, regreased the link pins and its way better but possibly still a tad too tight.
For the lowered guys, when you jack the car up how do you prevent the long tierod from bending under the weight of the wheels / suspension hanging down? Tierods are flipped and when the car is jacked up all the weight of the suspension is hanging from the long tierod hitting the pan? I gotta redo my toe alignment again because of it. |
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pOrk Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2011 Posts: 345 Location: Wauwatosa, Wi
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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I wanna go lower still, going to drive it like this for awhile and work out the bugs. Its running a little funny and stopping a little funny so it wont be on the road till tuesday or so
Nobody seems to be watching this thread, so I'll quit bugging you with my noobness and get this car on the road. Soon to the alignment shop, then start putting on the miles. |
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CLASSIC CAR GUY  Transport and Title Guru

Joined: August 09, 2010 Posts: 1577 Location: Phoenix AZ, but originally from Long Island NY
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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it was a nice looking car when it was stock, now after 46ys of surviving countless obsticles, its now lowered and slammed starting its slow death, but hey good luck with it..  _________________ (0\!/0)
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touchdowntodd Samba Member

Joined: April 13, 2009 Posts: 285 Location: milwaukee
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| CLASSIC CAR GUY wrote: | it was a nice looking car when it was stock, now after 46ys of surviving countless obsticles, its now lowered and slammed starting its slow death, but hey good luck with it..  |
nothin that couldnt be undone .. and if you wanted it to stay stock perhaps you shoulda bought it?
your posts are graet and informative as hell for the most part, but i dont get the point behind shitting on everyone dropping these.. this car wasnt dropped shity, all the parts are right (even though they had to be modded to be right) , and its somethin he loves.. whats the big deal.. you dont know this car or its history, this car was slammed long before he got it, and taken back to stock by whoever did the resto.. now its back to its rightfull home..
i wish i had the balls (or the ability) with my garage entrance to go this low.. i think it looks great man... and as much as i know you and how you do things, i know only good parts will go on this car, and it will be well maintaned and taken care of..
screw the guys that argue about stock vs modded.. there are a TON of these out there.. they can do what they want with theirs.. _________________ mine - '65 6vt 40hp, 5.5" beam, Spindles, BRMs, etc
project with dad - '62 pan'd manx copy body 6vt 40hp.. |
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CLASSIC CAR GUY  Transport and Title Guru

Joined: August 09, 2010 Posts: 1577 Location: Phoenix AZ, but originally from Long Island NY
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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not that i dont like them lowered, just some cars that look pretty good,solid and close to orig and not hacked up its nice to see them left stock, and that car looked pretty sweet. I have a few of mine lowered,, hot rodded and such but they were cars that were either rolling shells i started with or a rough driver that somebody started a half ass job on already. Now we all know that every time we ever hear "theres nothing done to it that cant be undone", never and I mean never ever goes back to stock we all know this, there might be the occasional resto of an older modded one but brought back to its original glory, but thats rare and few and far between.
Good ones untouched are getting harder to find thats basically what i meant. _________________ (0\!/0)
58' Rag'
60' Type 1
61' Type 1
62' Type 1
64' Type 1
66' Type 1
66' Fasty'
67' Type 1
"every one wants to reinvent the wheel, but nobody knows how to make it round"
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touchdowntodd Samba Member

Joined: April 13, 2009 Posts: 285 Location: milwaukee
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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understood and agreed with ... and his wasnt an untouched bug... mine however, has been its whole life.. but is rough and i dont feel bad about lowering it a little (not as far as erics), and maybe a few minor mods _________________ mine - '65 6vt 40hp, 5.5" beam, Spindles, BRMs, etc
project with dad - '62 pan'd manx copy body 6vt 40hp.. |
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Aynthm Samba Member

Joined: July 07, 2010 Posts: 1084 Location: Beaverton, Oregon
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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I saw one so low on craig's list that the running boards were almost ground down to nothing. Never could understand it. _________________ '66 Beetle
Keep it simple, keep it stock.
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 41918 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Nice, looks good. Lowered on original rims is always a good look. _________________ How to: Post Photos | Search
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pOrk Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| Different strokes for different folks, as they say. This car has some very odd things done to it before I got it, I plan on making them right but lowered is the look I love. Its got almost 3 inches of ground clearance so more then enough, heck my daily driver has 5.5 inchs and its factory height. Nothing wrong with that imo |
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