New guy, just bought a 65 in Lake Havasu

touchdowntodd · Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:31 pm Post subject:

i say maybe a stock pulley would fix the issue?
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pOrk · Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:20 pm Post subject:

I'm also missing the lower engine tin, any idea where I can track one of those down?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1137790

Will this one work for my 65 bug with 1600 dual port?

lovethatconvertible · Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:51 pm Post subject:

If you have the offset oil cooler then you need this one. There's another piece that goes with it but I couldn't find one in the adds. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1116748

pOrk · Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:57 pm Post subject:

Offset oil cooler meaning the one that goes further back, correct? I don't yet but I am trying to hunt one down as the engine runs HOT with the one thats in there, also looking to find the fan shroud to accommodate it as well. I bought this car from a hack who just through it together so I am trying to make it right.

pOrk · Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:33 pm Post subject:

lovethatconvertible · Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:27 pm Post subject:

Well you could just change out the pulley, push rod tubes and seals, usually when you loosen the heads though it's good to change the paper gasket under the cylinders too. Then slap that baby back together and Drive it until winter. Then do a rebuild or refresh. Have you done a compression test? Must of missed it but how bad is it leaking oil? Or is it just putting a mist of oil all over the engine. What about the oil pump cover gasket? could it be leaking?

pOrk · Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:24 pm Post subject:

lovethatconvertible · Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:05 pm Post subject:

Have you steamed cleaned your engine and checked to see if there are any offending visual leaks? Got any books? If not I could loan you one.
The only way the cylinders would leak is if the Heads were very loose. There's only a few places the engine can leak. that is unless you have a CRACKED Case. Ones I can think of are
Oil Cooler, Oil Pump, Flywheel Seal, Front Pulley(After Market), Generator Stand, Valve Covers, Oil Sending Unit, Oil Drain Plate. Case Half's Loose, Oil Vein Plugs, Pulled(Stripped) Head Studs. You could Check to see if your Head Studs are pulling loose by checking the torque on the head bolts. You'll have to remove the Fan Shroud, Manifold,engine tin, to get to them.
Taking the heads off is easy, Drain the Oil then
1- Remove Valve Covers.
2- Remove the 2 13mm bolts and wave washers holding on the Rockers
( should loosen the valve adjusting Bolts/screws also.)
3- Remove Push Rods and set aside- DON'T bend them.
You can roll them on a flat surface to check for straightness.
4- Take off the bolts holding on the heads 8 on each side?
5- Carefully remove the heads, Will have to use two large flat blade screwdrivers and work them away from the cylinders evenly. Do this carefully so you don't brake any Fins. Don't MAR any of the Sealing surfaces. The push rod tubes will be falling away so you can catch them as the head comes away from the cylinders. If you need a Book PM me your info.
TAKE PICTURES along the way if you do do this. Stock engines are so easy to work on, your grandmother could do it. But you do need some required tools before starting such a project. And for sure they need to be put Back together right. There's alot of Help Here just ask.

lovethatconvertible · Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:12 pm Post subject:

By the way stay focused and don't get bummed out over this. You can beat this. The biggest problem with most VW's is the PO with very little skills or a Bad Mechanic. Hang in there Mang Very Happy

61SNRF · Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:48 pm Post subject:

Congratulations on finding a nice '65. Too bad you had to travel half way across the country to get it! Location, location, location Laughing

Stock or lowered they look nice, and they can easily get changed back. All depends on what the current driver wants.
I have more of a problem with those swamp coolers and racks, they just look ghetto and useless to me. Same story though, do what you like to it.
As for your oil leaks, from your pictures it's obvious that the crankcase ventilation system has been modified. If it's not vented properly, or the engine produces too much positive crankcase pressure, you can replace every component called out above and you will still have a leak. The stock breather vents to the air cleaner where the vapors are drawn back into the negative pressure of the intake and burned. With the system you have, it appears to be a simple road draft tube if anything. Add the restriction of the small brass fitting and the positive pressure can build up at higher RPM forcing oil out the points of least resistance.
You might try adding a breather box with added vents to the valve covers as a temporary Band-Aid to rule it out, but really you should do a leakdown test on the engine to see if there is excess blowby past the rings. You say a hack put it together, so I'm just saying.
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Good luck and Best of fun with it.
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lovethatconvertible · Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:03 pm Post subject:

POrk I do have to agree with 61SNRF that your oil issue could be the crankcase ventilation, For sure it would be worth looking into, simple stuff first. I must admit that I missed it.

Rich's 50 · Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:27 pm Post subject:

russ c · Samba Member Joined: July 24, 2010 Posts: 187

keeping my 66 stock,but your cars stance looks great man Smile

pOrk · Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:38 pm Post subject:

Went through everything as best as I could today and I think the breather thing may be where the problem lies. Do I need to buy vented valve covers or something? I noticed near each valve cover their appears to be a vent where you could attach a breather tube, so are you suggesting I do something with those? I will try and look up what a breather box is.

The engine seems to run strong and it looks much better now that I have all the right parts on it, I am picking up a few gaskets from a bud this afternoon and should have it all back together this evening ( minus the crank case breather box? ) and will take a photo for more suggestions. I appreciate you guys taking the time to respond, this forum is a great resource for these cars.

pOrk · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:05 am Post subject:

Ya dig? Still leaking oil once it warms up, but what can you do. I think I will need to get standoffs, it seems to be running REAL hot.

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zozo · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:13 am Post subject:

Very tastefully done. It's gorgeous. Congrats.

tkelley · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:35 pm Post subject:

pOrk · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:55 pm Post subject:

thanks guys!

mykidsbug · Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:53 pm Post subject:

pOrk dang thats Sweet! i didnt know it was done. How does it ride, smooth? Im still trying to finish. looks like i need torsion leaves added or maybe just buy all new ones.

pOrk · Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:57 pm Post subject:

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