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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome! Thanks for adding that- great info! I'll have to add those pages to this thread!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

glutamodo wrote:
Considering how rare it is in the US


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now i need to find the rest of the set up!


PM me.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does anyone know of a car locally (as in where you live) that is a saxomat? id love to see pictures, more info, etc!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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THANK YOU SO MUCH CHRIS! Im so excited to get this all set up on my car and enjoy driving my car with it!

i had fun taking everything out of the box and checking it out
the clutch looks good! and the sindered bronze disc too! the solenoid works and I sucked on the servo and it works great too, very little suction yields enough pull that i couldnt hold the plunger back with my arm no matter how hard I pull- NEAT!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks to TEEROY and HOUSE I now have a complete saxomat setup for my car! I cant believe in 3 months time I found it all! amazing! now its time to get to work at my bench cleaning, oiling, greasing and painting all the little bits so they are ready to go on my car.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please take photographs and also measurements of key wear items, so others will have this data for their units.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KTPhil wrote:
Please take photographs and also measurements of key wear items, so others will have this data for their units.


I plane on it! I already took a lot already, will post later today or tomorrow. Wish I could post pics on here from my iPhone, but alas no. One measurement that Bally needed is the sundered disc plate thickness- mine 2.65mm thick with 28k miles. I'm guess new was 3mm
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is (or was) a Saxomat equipped beetle in California owned by VW collector Carl Belcher (aka Peanuts) for years. He had a small VW museum as I recall. The car was in a couple of books proported to be a 1960 but sure looked like a 61 to me. Maybe someone knows its whereabouts as it was a running driving car.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

most likely a 61 40hp. Cause as he's finding out, no one really knows yet how to do it on a 36.

only way to do iphone pics is photobucket app and cut and paste the img URL
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erik G wrote:
most likely a 61 40hp. Cause as he's finding out, no one really knows yet how to do it on a 36.

only way to do iphone pics is photobucket app and cut and paste the img URL
there's no way to add emmyonthe gallery- not possible
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

guteandtite wrote:
THANK YOU SO MUCH CHRIS! Im so excited to get this all set up on my car and enjoy driving my car with it!


No problem, I'm excited that it went to a good home and it will be able to help other Saxomat owners with this thread...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

found this source for the original woven metal reinforced braided vacuum line made by CONTINENTAL:
https://www.belmetric.com/rh12w-p-910.html?zenid=tkvd24bnn02s01n03q9jkmp6a3&cPath=14_140
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Picture: Sparepartnumber: Part-name: Pieces: Typ and Modell:

Automatic Clutch (Saxomat) M5

1 113 105 305 hollow screw with needlebearing 1
2 113 105 317 layer for needlebearing 1
3 113 142 021 clutch with clutchhood 1
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113 142 025 clutchcover and pressuredisc 1
5 N 10 212 3 bolt M6x12 6
6 N 12 006 2 springlayer B6 6
7 113 142 031 clutchdisc 1
8 113 142 055 servomotor 1
- 113 142 061 vacuumtank 1 141-144,151-152 for chassis 5199980 until 6502399 M5: 141-144
9 113 142 061 A vacuumtank 1 1 M5: 113,114,151,152 for chassis 5199980 until 6502399 and forwarts chassis 115000001 1 M5
- N 10 241 3 bolt M8x22 1 for chassis up to 5199979 3 M5: 113,114,141-144, 151,152 for chassis 5199980 until 6502399 3 M5: 141-144
- N 12 228 2 springlayerB8 3
M5: 113,114, for chassis up to 5199979 141-144,151,152 for chassis 5199980 until 6502399 3 M5: 141-144
10 113 142 071 flywheel 1
11 113 142 073 centrifugal-disc 1
12 113 142 081 roller-house 1
13 113 142 091 roller-flyweight 10
14 113 142 093 cylinderbolt M6x12 9
15 N 12 026 1 springlayer 6 9
16 113 142 095 free wheel with drive-house 1
17 113 142 105 cylinderbolt M6x12 2
18 N 12 026 1 springlayer 6 9
19 113 142 109 strech-pieces 9
20 113 142 125 free-run layer 1
21 113 142 129 free run arm 3
22 113 142 133 bolts for arm 3
23 113 142 137 special nuts for bolts 3
24 113 142 139 layers for special nuts 3
25 113 142 141 spring-clip 3
26 113 142 151 clutch spring outside 9
27 113 142 155 clutch spring inside 9
28 113 142 161 case for clutch-pressurespring 9
- 111 141 165 bearing and case 1
- 111 141 177 springclip for bearing 2
29 113 142 191 clutch/friction materialparts 2
30 113 142 195 rivet for friction parts 12
31 113 142 301 pistonrod for servomotor 1
32 311 142 303 bracket for servomotor 1 for chassis forwarts 5199980
33 N 12 232 1 springlayer B12 1 for chassis forwarts 5199980
34 N 11 020 2 bolt M12x1,5 1 for chassis forwarts 5199980
- 113 142 305 bracket for servomotor 1 for chassis up to 5199979
- 113 142 315 manchette for servomotor 1 for chassis up to 5199979
35 N 12 008 2 springlayer B8 3
36 N 11 008 bolt M8 4
- N 14 395 3 stift-bolt AM 8 A x42 for bracket 3 for chassis up to 5199979
- N 12 228 2 springlayer B8 3 for chassis up to 5199979
- N 11 008 8 bolt M8 3 for chassis up to 5199979
37 311 142 319 arm for clutchrod 1 for chassis forwarts 5199980
38 113 142 347 A distance bolts for vacuumtank 4 for chassis forwarts 5199980
39 N 12 234 1 springlayer B7 4 for chassis forwarts 5199980
40 N 11 007 1 Bolts M7 4 for chassis forwarts 5199980
41 113 142 351 valveblock 6Volt for Saxomat 1
42 113 142 353 airfilter for valveblock 1
43 113 142 355 A gummi/metall bearing for valveblock 3
44 N 12 006 2 springlayer B6 3
45 N 11 006 2 bolt M6 3
46 113 142 357 tulle for tube connection 1
47 N 20 390 1 tube 12x3,5 as needed
48 113 142 367 connection tube 4,5x620 1
49 113 142 371 A tube clip 6
50 113 142 391 Bolt 8x45x38 1 for chassis forwarts 5199980
51 113 142 393 safety clip for bolts 1 for chassis forwarts 5199980
52 311 142 711 clutchrod for servomotor 1
for chassis forwarts 5199980
53 111 721 349 A adjustment nut M7 for clutchrod 1 for chassis forwarts 5199980
54 N 11 007 1 bolt M7 1 for chassis forwarts 5199980
(52) 113 142 715 clutchrod for servomotor 1 for chassis up to 5199979
- 113 142 717 (between)plate 1 for chassis up to 5199979
(55) 113 142 719 A clutchrod 1 for chassis up to 5199979
55 111 141 719 B clutchrod 1 for chassis forwarts 5199980
56 N 12 416 1 safety clip 16x1 1
- N 10 230 3 bolt BM 10x30K 1 for chassis up to 3399498

- N 10 252 4
bolt M10x20 1 for chassis 339499 until 5199979
- N 12 231 1 springdisc A10 1 for chassis up to 5199979
- N 11 010 4 bolt M10 1 for chassis up to 3399498
113 142 721 adjustment nut for clutchrod 1 for chassis up to 5199979
57 311 142 721 adjustment nut for pistonrod 1 for chassis forwarts 5199980
(57) N 12 608 1 safety nut M8 1 for chassis up to 5199979
- N 12 512 1 split-clip 2x12 1
58 113 141 723 pull-back spring for clutcharm 1 for chassis forwarts 5199980
(5Cool 113 142 723 pull-back spring for clutcharm 1 for chassis up to 5199979

A big thanks to Frank Schroën for this information.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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