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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Burley Motorsports announcement:
I have just finished building more Burley swing away rear tire carriers.
I have made a couple changes this time around.
1) all the plates for various parts of the unit are now laser cut parts.
2) The bracket that holds the latch has a slight angle change to make it open and close a little smoother.
3) They only come powder coated now unless otherwise specified, nobody has ask for chrome...... YET!!! Shocked
4) I have one unit left in stock that was not presold prior to this run. So if you want one I have it now http://burleysmotorsports.com/index.php?main_page=...417c0abnv6 Thank you all for your input and great support of this product. Burley
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have a pic of this carrier, when closed, mounted with a 16" tire/wheel, from directly behind? I'd like to see how it is positioned in relation to the side of the vehicle?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SINKRO,
Pics of 16" wheel
29.5" tire:

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Burley,
Thats good news on the catch striker plate angle. Your attention to that type of detail continues to impress.
cheers!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Jim , We are continually trying to improve our products over here at Burley Motorsports. While there was never any real issue with the original plate angle , I did have one person mention it may make a difference.
They were correct so we made the improvement. Very Happy Burley
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the pic! Does the tire hang out over the side?

im considering carrying two tires and two bikes and maybe a jerry can (and a hilift).

Im just having issues trying to configure this in my head ... :p
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow thats a lot of equipment to put on one side of the van. Have you considered installing the left side tire carrier and our right side utility swing out carrier ? I am always happy to make a custom right side unit to hold all that stuff. We could put our heads together and build something nice for you. Dont let the word ''Custom '' translate into '' Extra Expensive '' It probabaly would not be any extra , but it all depends on how extravagant the design is. Feel free to P.mail me or call if if you would like to talk about it. Burley
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SINKRO wrote:
Thanks for the pic! Does the tire hang out over the side?

No.
Its just about flush to the side.. You can not see the tire in the driver side mirror.
I'll see if I have a better picture angle showing that.

Burley mentions his utility passenger-side swing coming out soon. (See other thread)
I'll be installing one as soon as it arrives.. Next week maybe?..if that helps your decision making.

My usage will be one spare tire. And on passenger side; gas cans, or tool box, BBQ, or ski rack.. or combination there of. Bikes go on a hitch mount rack which clears the Burley swing aways.


As noted.. Shoot Burley an email with your thoughts..
But keep in mind that you are talking a couple hundred pounds off the rear and that will impact suspension and handling. Give some thought to helper shocks to help support the load and assist your springs... or some such.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Burley Swing Away Tire Carrier - Install, New developments. Reply with quote

Thanks for providing this step-by-step instructional post. It made it easier to install. I do have a question though, why have it unloaded when you are trying to locate the latch? It seems to me like you would want the normal weight of the spare in order for the latch to function correctly. I haven't installed the latch yet. The mosquitoes chased me away after it started to get dark.

j_dirge wrote:
...Important! At this step, the carrier should not have the tire and wheel in place.
You want the carrier empty and unloaded when placing the latch meachnism for marking holes.
And of course the hatch should be closed...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: Burley Swing Away Tire Carrier - Install, New developments. Reply with quote

tjet wrote:
Thanks for providing this step-by-step instructional post. It made it easier to install. I do have a question though, why have it unloaded when you are trying to locate the latch? It seems to me like you would want the normal weight of the spare in order for the latch to function correctly. I haven't installed the latch yet. The mosquitoes chased me away after it started to get dark.

j_dirge wrote:
...Important! At this step, the carrier should not have the tire and wheel in place.
You want the carrier empty and unloaded when placing the latch meachnism for marking holes.
And of course the hatch should be closed...

The rack uses large poly bushings in the swing pivot. And there is a bit of flex to them.
When you load the rack with the wheel/tire.. it will ride a bit lower onto the striker plate (only a hair) and this creates a "pre-load" on the striker plate.

The result is two-fold.

When the rack is unloaded it still sits fairly snug on the striker plate in the catch and does not rattle.
When the rack is loaded the striker plate takes up most of the load force on it.. instead of the catch assembly.. The entire rack structure is held solid at 3 points... and that heaver load is held down tight.
No movement. No bouncing.. Smooth roads to the bumpiest off road.

It is worth mentioning that the rack will require a bit of oomph to open and close.. It won't be a smooth effortless 2016 MBZ touring class door closing "click".
Its more of a "grunt" and "thunk".. When it latches. (and locked). You KNOW its latched and it won't be budging

Comes from Burley's off road racing experience. "Preload"
Thats also why you set the lug-nut piece the way its done here.. So that when the tire is bolted down.. the tire rubber against the rack holds it snug in place.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:50 am    Post subject: Re: Burley Swing Away Tire Carrier - Install, New developments. Reply with quote

Thank you J_ dirge for helping clarify , thought I'd mention that we have redesigned the latch plate so it closes much nicer/easier than before.
Still not like a 2016 MBZ door though LOL
Thanks again for all you guys help and support Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: Burley Swing Away Tire Carrier - Install, New developments. Reply with quote

burleymotorsports wrote:
Thank you J_ dirge for helping clarify , thought I'd mention that we have redesigned the latch plate so it closes much nicer/easier than before.
Still not like a 2016 MBZ door though LOL
Thanks again for all you guys help and support Smile


Angled that striker plate a bit less?
My passenger side utility tray is like that.. certainly "easier" to click closed.
Both units still going strong..

Will be loaded up this weekend for more mountains fun.. Mobile shop and tool box for the Manx style buggy, being flat-towed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:44 am    Post subject: Re: Burley Swing Away Tire Carrier - Install, New developments. Reply with quote

We did change the angle and the latch plate design.
Nice to hear both units are still going strong , you got units from the very first batch way back in the day.
The manx sounds like a lot of fun . Ya gotta come up to the Shasta county OHV park , my Baja bug will be done soon , we can have some fun up there or on my 1/2 mile short coarse at my house Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: Burley Swing Away Tire Carrier - Install, New developments. Reply with quote

burleymotorsports wrote:
We did change the angle and the latch plate design.
Nice to hear both units are still going strong , you got units from the very first batch way back in the day.
The manx sounds like a lot of fun . Ya gotta come up to the Shasta county OHV park , my Baja bug will be done soon , we can have some fun up there or on my 1/2 mile short coarse at my house Very Happy

Currently the buggy has about 2" of travel.. We need to discuss. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: Burley Swing Away Tire Carrier - Install, New developments. Reply with quote

Oh I see , so its a long travel car hahaha
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Burley Swing Away Tire Carrier - Install, New developments. Reply with quote

j_dirge wrote:
tjet wrote:
Thanks for providing this step-by-step instructional post. It made it easier to install. I do have a question though, why have it unloaded when you are trying to locate the latch? It seems to me like you would want the normal weight of the spare in order for the latch to function correctly. I haven't installed the latch yet. The mosquitoes chased me away after it started to get dark.

j_dirge wrote:
...Important! At this step, the carrier should not have the tire and wheel in place.
You want the carrier empty and unloaded when placing the latch meachnism for marking holes.
And of course the hatch should be closed...

The rack uses large poly bushings in the swing pivot. And there is a bit of flex to them.
When you load the rack with the wheel/tire.. it will ride a bit lower onto the striker plate (only a hair) and this creates a "pre-load" on the striker plate


Thanks. Will give it a try
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Burley Swing Away Tire Carrier - Install, New developments. Reply with quote

tjet wrote:

Thanks. Will give it a try

The idea is that striker plate carries a little bit of the load.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Burley Swing Away Tire Carrier - Install, New developments. Reply with quote

Well I got it installed...

That unloaded method worked well Cool

I only had time to prime it, that's why it's green (zinc chromate). I bought the raw metal version on Burley's Leap Day sale.

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The inboard top of the hoop does contact my door though. Not a biggie. This van would qualify for Roadkill. As a side benefit, it's nice & sung when it's like that. Laughing I should point out that the defect is my van, not the tire holder. The bumper was beyond repair so I removed it (van was rear-ended before I bought it)

I also carried out the noganav mod by reversing the wheel to allow a BMW or MB spare tire gas can. This one is a 7 liter MB can. I'm not done with that yet, but you get the idea.

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Real happy with the Burley tire holder & glad I got one.

Now, I may need to get a matching rear bumper...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:11 am    Post subject: Re: Burley Swing Away Tire Carrier - Install, New developments. Reply with quote

^^^ didn't your tags recently reference the beast (666)? Now 316?

Thanks for the pics on the Burley. There may be two in my future.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: Burley Swing Away Tire Carrier - Install, New developments. Reply with quote

The rack is too close to the tailgate for my comfort. I'd consider a 3/8" cutting board spacer under the latch assembly mounting plate to add some space.

Not sure why its so close.. Mine is about an inch off in that spot.


Good to have a little extra room for Trasharoo straps and the like...

I really like that inside wheel gas can set up. Much more elegant than rotopaks
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