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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This shouldn't have been fully welded. There should have been a visible seam where the top panel, the one you welded in, and the nose met..
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This shouldn't have been fully welded. There should have been a visible seam where the top panel, the one you welded in, and the nose met..


It looks like to me he welded at the rounded part of the nose.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanx guys
its isnt fully welded at the joint between window frame and front, the stock seam is all on the donor piece. i did this because it is very hard to get a stock looking joint. this is welded at the factory with a spot welder, with my spot welder i cant reach around the dashboard. at the factory the dashboard was mounted after welding the two front pieces i assume. sorry for the bad pics

did some more work on the torsoin tube:
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new inner frame made from 2.5mm sheet metal:

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first positioned with the mig welder, i used the arc welder for getting enough penetration on the tube. the new piece is thicker than the stock tube

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thanx for looking
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted that and then went and tinkered on my bus. I remembered the pic kinda and realized that you had welded lower than the og seam. Sorry about that. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i motivate somebody to get going on their own bus, thats cool!

strangly i have been pretty motivated too:
fabrication of the outer part of the frame:
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outer part testfitted:
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broke out hammer and dolly to shape the upper ond lower part:
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i have only spotwelded them to make a good fit. the part now kinda snaps in place. i will weld it on the inside before instalation:
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stay tuned
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some more work done:
welded the repairsection and primed it inside. sandblasting will not get to the inside after welding it up

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the rails to tilt the panel to the left side are working as advertised. the big radius lets me easily manipulate the car into every angle i want:

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pretty crusty, eh? (nothing i was suprised of, just no good pics until now)

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the inner frame part is now welded.
then i decided to cut my hand with the anglegrinder, so i am out for a week. nothing serious....
oh well i like to think that all complete restos draw a little blood, all of my others have Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the torsion tube is now fully welded, some more cleanup to do after sandblasting
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i have also repaired the framepart where the handbrake goes with the help of the donor part. a torch and some colourful words were necessary to take out the handbrakeleverpin
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at last i started to cut off the rear part of the roof to graft in the rear donorsection and repair the inner gutter
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comments and critique welcome
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

last night i made some progress on the roof. parts of the upper sidewall will have to be patched. the inside gutter was very bad.

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here the cut will be on the donor section

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fitting of the donor part
first very careful cutting to have enough material left:
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some parts of the sidewall had to be patched on the upper end/flange:
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rear part slid underneath:
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when the rear part was cut i found out the roof had come off about a foot from the raingutter, so i cut a donorpiece. this was taken from the passenger side of it, the donor was rusted on the driversside too:

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cutting:
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flange exposed. i had a little trouble getting it off clean at the strengthener inside, but finally managed
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trial fit:
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this thread doesnt seem to generate a lot of interest, but posting progress keeps me going Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long way to go buddy! But with the dedication you got there, that Split will soon see the light and glory of the day! Keep up the awesome work, buddy
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is VERY interesting, and I for one enjoy watching your efforts. Please keep posting, and please keep including the pics. You're providing a lot of valuable insight for others that may be looking forward to the same repairs.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanx guys, i really appreciate it!

next i removed the rotted part of the inside gutter. pretty tricky to get just the upper part out, but i managed to cut it with the airdisc and airsaw, then wiggle off the rest:
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fabrication of the new upper part was next, it reaches to the roof bow and attaches to it with a little flange. the bow is loose on the sides (probably from the body flexing during decades of driving)
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a littel crude, but it works for a part you can hardly see. i will spot weld it in place after sandblasting the gutter. hope there will be no more holes to patch then....
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the donorpiece was fitted next, welded from the inside
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i will fit the large rear part before finishwelding the roofskin. and yes i used a flange tool. i know this can be seen from the inside, but i feel i can do better adjustments that way - and hey, this is no pebble beach resto Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

next i drilled out the chanell for the rear hatch seal from the old roofpart
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and checked the fit:
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i pulled the sidewalls together a bit:
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and checked the gaps with the help of the (donor) hatch and some wooden wedges
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after tapping all of the screwholes i attached the hatch to the roofsection
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some more tweaking necessary, but you get the idea. its not so easy getting this part on alone
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i used some clamps to align the hatch and corners
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first i welded the raingutter because its the most visible part and no bondo can be used there

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one spot at a time to get no heat warping:

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from the inside:

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep up the good work....subscribed! Cool

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fixing roofs is so fun! cool thread, i like the extraction of the 66.

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