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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread and the others demonstrate that this property is out of control and all the input from the alleged source is just managing to upset people. It seems that very few select people benefited from this outfit. I suspect that a prolonged "due process" has been ongoing for years with the participants ignoring the ongoing situation. It is sad and to see all those 'salvaged' vehicles rotting in masses seems like, well criminal if the alleged intent was to be a supplier in the recycling and hobbyist environment.

Clearing this was not a totally functioning business but an ever growing environmental and health issue. I believe that "due process" has been more than met. Somebody off shore is now going to make some $$$$ off this 'scrap heap' and I doubt there'll be any $$$$ left for the owner after expenses are met and paid. The most frustrating lesson here is the waste but realizing that one person and one person only is responsible for this.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I am the one that spread the word... apparently further and wider than I ever expected I feel like I should say something here, but it seems that everyone already has their opinions and it is kind of pointless... so of course I will throw in my two cents anyway...

I've only know about the orders to remove these cars since August or September or so. Whether it goes back further than that I cannot tell you, but I didn't know about it before then and it is my understanding that this is when they became serious threats whether there was anything said before or not.

As far as the cars out there... There have been many cars that have been sold and restored or used for parts or whatever over the years... Several split busses I know have been sold, a few bays... the parts from the Binz, etc. and I only know this because I've been to the yard enough to see it happen. There are threads on the samba about cars that were saved from this yard.

Yes, perhaps Corky doesn't sell a hood for $10 like you can buy modern car parts at a modern junkyard, but when is the last time you saw a ghia or type 3 or bus in a modern junkyard? I can't say that I agree with some of the high prices on certain items either, but have you ever said "hey I don't think that part is worth $50, but I think it's worth $30" and tried to negotiate? I'm not speaking for Corky and saying that he is going take your offer and run, but he is human too, and this has been his life for a long time and maybe you both have unrealistic expectations of what a part is worth. Before you huff and puff and complain about his prices, why don't you show what the value of it is and see if he will take your offer? Maybe he had more invested in it than you think or maybe the part is rarer or more valuable that YOU think? I certainly am not saying now is the time to negotiate as this is a super busy time for them.

I have bought plenty of items from Corky at more than reasonable prices and was happy to pay them. I was also happy to have the resource there to be able to buy the parts from him when I needed them! I've been going to Sunray Bugs since the mid nineties and I've learned more than I could ever remember to tell you from Corky, Tina, Terry, Jessie, Dwight, Tim, etc. etc.

The point of my posting the ad was to ensure that everyone knew the great loss of a resource to the VW community. To ensure that everyone could get in on something they may have thought about for years but never got around to asking because they thought it would just be there. I know that I lost out on some stuff that I really wanted but was "not for sale" at the time. That wasn't my fault and it wasn't Corky's. I understood why it wasn't for sale. and I understand why it got crushed.

Please refrain from the negative commenting. This is hard on a lot of people. If you don't need anything then just leave it be. If you want something, make a reasonable offer on it.

Again I am not speaking on behalf of Sunray Bugs... But I do look forward to visiting them again soon. Corky still has many parts and services available after the yard is gone.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't care one way or the other about this in any real sense--I'm 2000 miles away, and nothing I've seen so far makes me think there's anything there I need to go rescue.

That said. I am puzzled about the way you're handling this. If this is really Zero Hour, and you really, truly, want to save the remaining cars, then why isn't there an accurate list of what's available? Why isn't everything clearly priced (You're still at the bullshit "make offer" stage, and it seems like we're past the point where we have time to play that game), and why on Earth is this the only ad you're running?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1231703

The ads are free for christsakes. Get off your ass, grab a camera, go take some photos, and do a dozen ads with photos and prices and details instead of sitting here in the forums whining about it. Show us you're serious about actually liquidating this stuff instead of having a pointless debate on an internet forum. In the time you've wasted here you could have had the whole inventory advertised in the classified section.

Until you do that, I think all this drama is just you asking the world to feel sorry for you.


Very Well put. I can't agree more. Five years ago, I bought out a local shop from from the wife of a Crazy old Man that wouldn't sell anything. He prefererred to let it sit and rot. I paid $3,000 bucks for the ENTIRE contents of a 25-year collection of 83 cars, and parts. I had a contract written up that I had to have everything out in 90 days. I got it done, and scored a ton of useable parts.
His wife was happy, as it helped Her sell the property more easily. For years, I had been trying to buy parts from the Old Guy, and was always turned away. Look where it all ended up.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As written about on;
Itinerant@air-cooled in August
FMBC in August
VwVortex on Dec 10th
Hemmings.com on Dec 13th

If I read correctly, a post on one of the above sites, by VWgirl (I think that was the name) indicated the scrap metal price of a bus was about $500.

I bet there are/were some folks out there willing to pay $500 for one of those buses, even without a title.

Oh, and save the Vanagons! According to some thesamba for sale ads, Vanagons are also very valuable.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As written about on;
Itinerant@air-cooled in August
FMBC in August
VwVortex on Dec 10th
Hemmings.com on Dec 13th

If I read correctly, a post on one of the above sites, by VWgirl (I think that was the name) indicated the scrap metal price of a bus was about $500.

I bet there are/were some folks out there willing to pay $500 for one of those buses, even without a title.

Oh, and save the Vanagons! According to some thesamba for sale ads, Vanagons are also very valuable.



I have not posted about this on any of those sites nor have i quoted ANYONE ANY prices... You might want to recheck your sources. And again we are back at people making up stories and spreading rumors that have no factual basis. I know better than to quote prices for Corky... I don't even know what's left there, I'm 500 miles away from there right now. Anyone that has contacted me about this I have advised to contact sunray directly.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no resolution for this matter in here. It's over and the potential for flaming in here is very great. All this support had a place perhaps years ago. Now it is just disturbing. Corky had his time, clearly not so well at managing volume. Let it be, it's finished. Lessons to be learned and filed someplace. I'm sorry for Corky but I also have some pity for the situation. It did not need to happen this way. Any pictures of the scene are horrible and disturbing to the active VW lover.

It's over. The emotions and accusations that are being spoken in here are a result of this thread being opened. No more no less. Hopefully this thread will be closed as the other was, as both sides or perhaps all sides have voiced their positions.

As I said earlier this is a done deal. If Corky remains in business then he should be OPEN for business. Saying its so and then having people travel there for not, is a waste. If there is a viable business then let the business owner make the publicity and advertisements. If he is not capable then who specifically is running the business. Let the facts of any present and future business stand by the owner, not a variety of people giving mixed messages. Brick wall
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, wait. Am I right in thinking that VWGirl and Sunray Bugs are the same person here?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So, wait. Am I right in thinking that VWGirl and Sunray Bugs are the same person here?



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, we need some folks to step up and clarify just who is posting here. If vw girl posted the original ad, why then was it listed as Corky being the contact for the sale? I'm confused. Is SunRay bugs Corky? I really have a hard time believing that he has time to type out novels on the internet when just yesterday he was running around like a headless chicken trying to save his cars with a forklift. I thought vw girl said above she's 500 miles away? Clarification on just who is coordinating the sale and ads here. Way too many cooks in the kitchen, and everything is getting burned...

Who exactly is posting as SunRay ???
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

according to SunrayBugs' ads, it's Corky that uses that ID here on the Samba....
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is no resolution for this matter in here. It's over and the potential for flaming in here is very great. All this support had a place perhaps years ago. Now it is just disturbing. Corky had his time, clearly not so well at managing volume. Let it be, it's finished. Lessons to be learned and filed someplace. I'm sorry for Corky but I also have some pity for the situation. It did not need to happen this way. Any pictures of the scene are horrible and disturbing to the active VW lover.

It's over. The emotions and accusations that are being spoken in here are a result of this thread being opened. No more no less. Hopefully this thread will be closed as the other was, as both sides or perhaps all sides have voiced their positions.

As I said earlier this is a done deal. If Corky remains in business then he should be OPEN for business. Saying its so and then having people travel there for not, is a waste. If there is a viable business then let the business owner make the publicity and advertisements. If he is not capable then who specifically is running the business. Let the facts of any present and future business stand by the owner, not a variety of people giving mixed messages. Brick wall

For someone who's "distanced", you sure seem to have a lot of input about the situation, dude. Who cares if there is "no resolution for this matter in here", people are still going to discuss it anyway. Personally I think this thread is an interesting read and see no need to "close the thread". And if seeing pictures of VW's that are doomed and destined to be crushed somehow bothers and upsets you, then you have serious problems. Especially if you are a Vanagon owner who wouldn't have any reason to purchase vintage aircooled salvage parts in the first place. Crush that shit. Most of it looks like rusted out garbage, anyhow.
Sounds like the old man could have sold quite a bit of stuff in the past and made a little money. It seems obvious that he has some sort of mental illness and was hoarding parts with no real motivation to let them go. Saving parts for a restoration you plan to get to "some day" when you are 82 years old is wishful thinking. I hope to be that delusional if and when I get to that age.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It hit Hemmings...tons of pixs in the link

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2011/12/13/save-these-bugs-dade-city-florida/?refer=news
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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GMByers wrote:
As written about on;
Itinerant@air-cooled in August
FMBC in August
VwVortex on Dec 10th
Hemmings.com on Dec 13th

If I read correctly, a post on one of the above sites, by VWgirl (I think that was the name) indicated the scrap metal price of a bus was about $500.



I have not posted about this on any of those sites nor have i quoted ANYONE ANY prices... You might want to recheck your sources. And again we are back at people making up stories and spreading rumors that have no factual basis. I know better than to quote prices for Corky... I don't even know what's left there, I'm 500 miles away from there right now. Anyone that has contacted me about this I have advised to contact sunray directly.


Must be some other VWgirl in Georgia...dunno....thanks for the suggestion to re-check my sources; I found the information below. I'll forgo the APA citation for references.

http://itinerant-air-cooled.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=9962

http://www.fullmoonbusclub.com/plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?30331 "I know he would rather sell the cars and keep these parts out there rather than crush them, but metal prices are high these days and buses are bring close to $500 a piece. "

The other two sites:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5519753-...st74873644

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/tag/sunray-bugs/

Not trying to point fingers...just trying to say this situation has and is a topic of discussion on other sites....I wonder if it is a topic on twitter, facespace and mybook.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DAIZEE wrote:
There is no resolution for this matter in here. It's over and the potential for flaming in here is very great. All this support had a place perhaps years ago. Now it is just disturbing. Corky had his time, clearly not so well at managing volume. Let it be, it's finished. Lessons to be learned and filed someplace. I'm sorry for Corky but I also have some pity for the situation. It did not need to happen this way. Any pictures of the scene are horrible and disturbing to the active VW lover.

It's over. The emotions and accusations that are being spoken in here are a result of this thread being opened. No more no less. Hopefully this thread will be closed as the other was, as both sides or perhaps all sides have voiced their positions.

As I said earlier this is a done deal. If Corky remains in business then he should be OPEN for business. Saying its so and then having people travel there for not, is a waste. If there is a viable business then let the business owner make the publicity and advertisements. If he is not capable then who specifically is running the business. Let the facts of any present and future business stand by the owner, not a variety of people giving mixed messages. Brick wall

For someone who's "distanced", you sure seem to have a lot of input about the situation, dude. Who cares if there is "no resolution for this matter in here", people are still going to discuss it anyway. Personally I think this thread is an interesting read and see no need to "close the thread". And if seeing pictures of VW's that are doomed and destined to be crushed somehow bothers and upsets you, then you have serious problems. Especially if you are a Vanagon owner who wouldn't have any reason to purchase vintage aircooled salvage parts in the first place. Crush that shit. Most of it looks like rusted out garbage, anyhow.
Sounds like the old man could have sold quite a bit of stuff in the past and made a little money. It seems obvious that he has some sort of mental illness and was hoarding parts with no real motivation to let them go. Saving parts for a restoration you plan to get to "some day" when you are 82 years old is wishful thinking. I hope to be that delusional if and when I get to that age.


Butting in and getting threads closed down seems to be a peculiar talent of that poster's.

I don't understand all the sturm und Drang either. You post something on an open forum on the Internet, and it's on, well, an open forum. If all you're looking for is opinions that exactly mesh with your own, then, good luck with that.

But as to why the owner of this property has done/ is doing with all this stuff as he is, I guess only he knows for sure, or maybe he doesn't, really. Sounds like he's not really willing to face reality- and, if that's the case, it's his deal.

VWGirl's contention that "this is hard for a lot of us" is just ridiculous. Don't blame the county or whomever is shutting this down, don't blame the posters here, don't blame God or Satan... blame the person who allowed this to progress to this point, first- then blame those that it's 'hard on' who sat by and did nothing during this whole charade second.

That place in the pictures is an eyesore. It's not a functional wrecking yard. Plus, with the proliferation of Africanized bees you have in Florida, it's downright dangerous. It's a perfect colonization and breeding ground for these nasty little bastards. A nest of them recently took out a 1000 lb hog in Arizona... KILLED it. Shocked And, the bees were from a property some distance away. I sure wouldn't want that so- called 'junkyard' within a mile of MY property, just for that reason.
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Sorry, but they're making the right call on this- and it sounds/ looks like the owner is going to do 'business as usual' to the bitter end.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In 30-40 years from now nobody is going to give a darn about VW's. The Federal Gov't wants to get all cars more then 15 years old off the streets.

Rusted junk is rusted junk.

I'll guess that SunRay Bugs is the daughter and VWgirl is the grand daughter.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coad wrote:
So, wait. Am I right in thinking that VWGirl and Sunray Bugs are the same person here?


No. Sunray Bugs is not VWGirl. VWGirl is a customer that has done a lot of business with Corky over the years. And there are thousands of more customers just like her that would step up and tell you stories of their positive experiences they have had over the years.

I represent the company on this forum... hence the user name Sunray Bugs. I thought that would be quite clear from the user name and the nature of my posts.

I am here to provide our side of the story. Others can say what they want as well. But, I think the title of the original thread speaks volumes about how the majority of the VW community really felt about their local salvage yard that is now gone forever.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I guess I have to step in here. Corkey runs SunRay. He has had ample time to decide whether he wanted to sell off his inventory for a reasonable price, or have the government do what they are in fact doing. At this point, it does seem to be a closed case.

This BTW is MY thread here, and was for people to discuss the place, not complain, direct anger, or slander. I have had MY post re-opened because it was a place for people to discuss this VW yard and any others that have been visited. It was not intended for all of this turmoil. That said.... VWGirl was a friend of the Corkey family, and was posting like anybody would for this info. The grandson has also been posting on Facebook, and I have been in touch with him. This situation is sad, but it was possible that it could have been dealt with better. I thanks some people like DisneyHerby for posting the current events. I hope that this thread can stay open, and we can move past the emotions, and get back on track talking about cool yards that we CAN use and enjoy. If Corkey stays open, then I hope he manages to do okay. As for all the rest of the topics, I hope they get more focused on the positive aspects and not so much negative. Thanks for your interest in my thread, BUT don't get it closed again.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is no better than the other thread on the same subject.
It's quite obvious that "SUNRAY BUGS" is just as clueless as "Corky" when it comes to selling VW parts. There are way too many people on this board that have dealt with this particular junkyard over the years, and the people that tried to keep him in business but were refused sales WAY out number the people who actually were granted the glory of buying some parts from him.
All I know is that some Chinese folks are gonna grind that shit up and resell it to us in the form of, well, everything that we buy that's made in China. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didnt think I needed to post my name, just about everyone in florida vw scene knows me.......Mike Riel.

My stories I posted are just that, Mine. they are true 100% and I have more as I have been to sunray many times and make it a point to stop in and talk to corky every time I pass by. As I said, I like Corky he is a good guy. I have just never understood his reluctance to sell parts.

Heres another for you, My son needed a Thing top frame and I stopped by there to take a look. I literally cut one out of the bushes and weeds that had grown over it for YEARS. The header bow was kinda rusty but I figured I could fix that part. I went and got Corky from the building and brought him down and showed it to him and told him I would like to purchase it, he said and I quote " I dont think I should sell that, I might need it someday for a Thing project". I have more stories just like that one and they are not fantasy.

With that said, I have also bought a DD 65 panel from there he had listed on the samba about 6 years ago. I would have bought a lot of stuff there but most everything I asked about just wasnt for sale because it might be needed some day.

Oh, and vwgirl is Lauren(sorry if I spelled your name wrong..LOL) not corky. She is a nice person also and does not have anything to do with this as far as I know.
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Harveybacon wrote:
Okay, I guess I have to step in here. Corkey runs SunRay. He has had ample time to decide whether he wanted to sell off his inventory for a reasonable price, or have the government do what they are in fact doing. At this point, it does seem to be a closed case.

This BTW is MY thread here, and was for people to discuss the place, not complain, direct anger, or slander. I have had MY post re-opened because it was a place for people to discuss this VW yard and any others that have been visited. It was not intended for all of this turmoil. That said.... VWGirl was a friend of the Corkey family, and was posting like anybody would for this info. The grandson has also been posting on Facebook, and I have been in touch with him. This situation is sad, but it was possible that it could have been dealt with better. I thanks some people like DisneyHerby for posting the current events. I hope that this thread can stay open, and we can move past the emotions, and get back on track talking about cool yards that we CAN use and enjoy. If Corkey stays open, then I hope he manages to do okay. As for all the rest of the topics, I hope they get more focused on the positive aspects and not so much negative. Thanks for your interest in my thread, BUT don't get it closed again.


Sorry, it's NOT "your" thread. It's a contribution you made to The Samba. When you hit "Submit", it belongs to TheSamba and the internet. As such, it's open to discussion until a Samba moderator or admin decides it's done.

That said, with all the publicity, you'd think he'd be selling stuff off fast- but he still seems to be using the crack- pipe pricing gun according to people who have posted here that went with trailers to buy stuff.

Does he NOT realize that when this government agency is done "stealing" his stuff, they're gonna bill him for the cleanup? I mean it would have only made SENSE to start selling cheap so at least he's getting paid for the cleanup, and not the other way around.

It's a sad classic case of "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink".
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