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vwalive Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2011 Posts: 5
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:28 am Post subject: MPG for a ’72 standard Beetle? |
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Would anyone be able to tell me the approximate miles per gallon I can expect from a ’72 standard Beetle?
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tb03830 Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2009 Posts: 1045 Location: Leavenworth, KS
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:31 am Post subject: |
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A good tuned engine should be able to get 30-35 MPG if I remember right. If you baby it you can get more. _________________ "Sic Vic Pacem, Para bellum - Pray for peace, prepare for war."
1964 Convertible Bug - 1600cc SP engine with a stock H30/31 Carb and SVDA Distributor - Swing Arm Highway Flyer Tranny, Gene Berg's Temperature Dipstick, 2.5" drop spindles, 2" narrowed adjustable front end. Chromed OEM fan tower. |
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Smallsc111 Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2009 Posts: 203 Location: Dallas,TX
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:45 am Post subject: |
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My dad's 1600 gets 25ish in town and almost 40 on the highway but remember the faster you go over 60 your mileage will drop off _________________ '74 Baja- Dad's Daily
*PROUD FORMER DAS KLUB MEMBER*
thechief86 wrote: |
jlex wrote: |
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nah, then he'd look like a jackass on top of getting crummy mileage. at least the bug looks cool |
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Max Welton Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2003 Posts: 10697 Location: Black Forest, CO
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drscope Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 15273 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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They still made beetles in 1972?
Just being a smart ass. You have this posted in the wrong forum. We don't know anything about any cars newer then 1967. So if you post this over in the Beetle - Late Model/Super forum, you will probably get more accurate answers then you will here. _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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bill may Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2003 Posts: 14160 Location: san diego,ca
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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look up in technical section. in owners manual it gives a close average.since a 68 weighs 200 pounds more than a 67,it should get less MPG.a 73 has tail lights larger than head lights on a 67,so it may be heavier also. _________________ Admin note: Bill Passed away - July, 2017
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31271 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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My 1970 sedan never did better than 24 mpg with its stock 1600 SP engine, but my 1971 SB Convertible always got like 31 mpg (1600 DP). I just attributed that to randomness, as SB Convertible is heavier. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Max Welton Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2003 Posts: 10697 Location: Black Forest, CO
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andk5591 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16754 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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File a grievance....... _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1914.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
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drscope Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 15273 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry Max - thought I could get away with it while you weren't looking! _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13843 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Stock engine mild driving 25 to 35 MPG. A worn out tired engine well it is hard to say. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
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72 Squareback
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Max Welton Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2003 Posts: 10697 Location: Black Forest, CO
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skabonner Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2009 Posts: 854 Location: La Habra, Ca
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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I have a fairly recently rebuilt 1600dp, and I usually get about 20 mpg town, and about 30 mpg highway. But I drive it kinda fast I could probably do better, if I didn't have such a heavy foot.
There are things you can do to make it better: http://www.cbperformance.com/articles.asp
They say they got 37 mpg at the end. Pretty impressive. _________________
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'67 Beetle "Ilsa"
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OLD VW NUT Samba Member
Joined: February 23, 2011 Posts: 2776 Location: High Desert of Washington 98823
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Here's an interesting thread. I read some of it and posted some of my experiences in it.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=458970&highlight=milage+mileage
I'm getting right at 28 with my 71 Ghia - its stock with a pair of Weber ICTs and cheap Empi GT exhaust. Runs good. That mileage is combined around town and to and from the golf course 3-4 times a week. I've gotten better in a beetle - a 64 with a high perf 1641 with dual Kadrons and .120" flycut heads for 10.3:1 compression. It got 30-32 regularly in combined driving. _________________ 71 Ghia Coupe - stock body - no rust! Powered by a 2110 W/Dual HPMX 44's - Rancho Pro Street Transaxle - A/C by Gilmore
Other car - 2013 VW Golf TDI |
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26302 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:26 am Post subject: |
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It's pretty common for a stock 1600DP with a single carb to get in the low to mid 20s for MPG. I know in the 300K I've put on the 1584 and 1641 DP engines in my Baja bug over the years the only time I've gotten higher is when I've been driving the back roads or in the mountains.
FYI, here's a chart of VW engine specs I put together comparing the various ones over the years. I included VW's published fuel economy ratings. Up into the early 70s that meant the DIN70030 standard of measuring actual fuel consumption on level ground, with half the rated payload, going 3/4th of the car's rated top speed, adding 10% then computing the fuel economy.
The EPA highway ratings I think were based on the national 55MPH speed limit in place at that time. Higher driving speeds bring those numbers down.
-Andy
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VOLKSWAGNUT Fastest VW Belt Changer
Joined: October 14, 2007 Posts: 11053 Location: Flippin' a Belt........ .... Off-n-On ... NC USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:05 am Post subject: |
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That chart is a perfect example of.... as power, torque, displacement, and weight go up.....fuel mileage goes down.
Better fuel mileage on the interstates can be helped with dual carbs. The easier you can make an engine pump "air", the more effecient it is. Just have to resist ringing its neck with the extra juice around town.
It seems like when someone is talking to me about my Beetle, the question of fuel mileage comes into the discussion. _________________ aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17273 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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glutamodo wrote: |
The EPA highway ratings I think were based on the national 55MPH speed limit in place at that time. |
I don't think that's the case. The 55 limit came into effect in about 1973 or 74. The mileage claims don't show any difference at that time.
When you read mileage claims, you have to ask how fast they are driving. If you are unwilling to drive below 60mph, you're not going to get good mileage.
I did some experimenting with my Mexican Beetle last year. At 60-65 mph, I was getting 33 mpg.
55-60 mph = 36mpg
50-55 mph = 39mpg
45-50 mph = 41mpg
Anyone that tells you they get 40mpg while driving 70mph in a Bug is either full of it, or they don't know how to measure or calculate mileage. _________________
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26302 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce, I think you and I are on the same page there - I was referring to the EPA Highway ratings from 1975 of 33MPG, 76-77 of 34MPG and 78-80 convertible of 30MPG as the ones with the 55MPH speed limit in mind. Compared to the DIN-spec rating of 25MPG in 1974. (of course, the 74 would have been a carb'd engine, FI certainly helps there)
I totally agree with you about people claiming to get 40MPG going 70+ is BS. Maybe if you are using Imperial gallons, but even then that's a stretch. Unless it's an isolated incident where you have a strong tail wind or were tucked in behind a semi-trailer the whole time.
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13843 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with you Andy you have to be Nascaring with the semi in front of you at 70+ to get 40 MPG. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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