My New 66! Getting Back into Bugs!!

justcruzin · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:35 pm Post subject:

Today we finally got the car back on the lift. After a few debates on "if VW intended to put a Ford part on it, they would have's" , we started looking for what could actually be causing the starting problem. We found a loose wire on the starter cylenoid, fixed that. Tried to start the car and nothing. So we ran a wire from the cylenoid to the battery compartment of the car that would act like a screwdriver to the cylenoid. After touching the battery a few times and still didn't start, it was decided to change the starter. Did that. Hooked it all back up, and still nothing. Had bright lights including dash lights, even had good spark from the battery.

We then decided to try adding the jumper box to the mix again. It had been charging for a couple days, so we knew it was good. Hooked it to the battery and bang, car turned over. So all this hassle, and all we had to do is test the battery to begin with. We didn't think it was bad because we had it on the charger overnight when we tried it a few days ago. It also appeared to have good spark, but it ended up being the problem.

So now I am still looking for a battery for my Westy, LOL, I ended up having to use the battery hubby found for it, for the bug. Very Happy

I took the bug for a test drive, but only made it to the end of the street and turned around. It was acting like it was running out of gas. I decided to clean a different carb for it. The one that is on it now has been taken off and cleaned twice now. It runs good for a short time, but then starts running like crap. I want to try the carb that originally came off this motor. I will get it cleaned up tomorrow and will have my fingers crossed that it will work better then the one that is on it now.

Once I can get it running like my 64 bus runs, I will be all over the town with it, even if it only has a driver seat right now! LOL Till then, I am a neighborhood driver! LOL
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webberjames95 · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:16 am Post subject:

update?
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justcruzin · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:28 am Post subject:

Only thing I have done lately was clean the original carb that was on the engine. Still need to remove the old one and install the cleaned up one. I was planning on doing that yesterday, but just didn't get to it. So now the plan is to do it today.

I'm hoping the cleaned up carb will allow the car to run better then what it has been. Right now it won't even stay running unless I keep the gas on it. I really think it is flooding itself out. I know when I stop the car after running it, I have to floor the pedal until it finally starts.

I am also needing to take the seat covers that were on the seats to have them sewn. Still don't have our upholstery sewing machine up and running yet. I am also waiting on hubby to do some welding on the seat frames. That isn't really what is stopping me from driving it though. I have the old seat with a blanket over it, so I can somewhat be comfy in it.

Once the carb is dialed in, I will be driving it. Very Happy

I did manage to get it out for a photo op. Very Happy

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Oh, and as you can see in the photo, I got my black and yellow plates approved from DMV! Very Happy

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justcruzin · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:43 pm Post subject:

I got the carb switched tonight. Then I switched it back! LOL The carb that I had cleaned up ended up being no good. It would just squirt gas out the top. So we re cleaned the first carb and found out the float was no good on it. We put a good on in it and put it back on the car. Spent about 20 minutes trying to get it to idle. It will idle really high, but as soon as you try to adjust it down, it dies. We finally gave up and came in the house. Not sure where we will go from here. New carb? Take this one back apart and soak it in carb dip this time? I don't know. I have come to the conclusion that I hate carbs! LOL Even seem to have problems with them on my Pintos! LOL Oh well, we will eventually figure it out.

On a good note, I got all my lights working. My little parking lights that are in with the headlights didn't work, so I took them out and cleaned them up, bent the tabs so they hit the bulb better and reinstalled them. All lights are working now!!

Tomorrow is another day! Very Happy

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madster · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:50 pm Post subject:

justcruzin · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:15 pm Post subject:

Hey, I finally have an update on my bug!! Very Happy

I finally got back to it, kind of, lol. In between working on my bus, I decided to take my carb off the bug and tear it apart, again, and this time soak it in carb dip. I planned on soaking it overnight. Well, 2 days later I finally got back to it. LOL That was today. I cleaned it all up after soaking in the dip, then reinstalled it back on the car. I am thrilled to say, the car started right up. Even stayed running. Very Happy

Now I just need to have it fine tuned (the carb). I am hoping the carb dip did the trick.

I still need to do all the interior, but that has to wait till more funds come in. I kind of went a little overboard on the bus. LOL

I will update on the carb once I get it fine tuned. Hopefully it will be a good update! Very Happy

I would love to start driving the bug on nice non rainy days. I only have one wiper right now so driving in the rain is out. LOL
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Maddog209 · Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:37 pm Post subject:

Looks like you are well on your way to having a great collection. The Bug is looking good!
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justcruzin · Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:32 pm Post subject:

Morganwerk · Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:47 pm Post subject:

Great story! It also warms my heart to see another Sea Sand back on the road. Cool

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justcruzin · Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:01 pm Post subject:

Well, the guys got tired of waiting on me to pull the motor, so the did it! LOL made the job easy for me! Very Happy

Today I tore the motor apart.

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Now I just have to wait for them to put case savers in. Then I can put it back together.
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justcruzin · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:08 pm Post subject:

Making a little progress on the motor.

Went from this,
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To this on Friday.
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I was planning on putting the rest of it back together today, but I ended up installing a blower fan in my bus instead! LOL Tomorrow I will be getting the motor put back together and hopefully sometime next week we will be able to get it back in the car! Very Happy

Then hopefully all will be well and I can move on to the insides of the car, but yet still be able to drive it around in the process. We'll see!
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justcruzin · Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:14 pm Post subject:

Ok, another update.

We got the motor put back together and installed. Had a buddy come over and do a final tune and he just couldn't get it dialed in. Found out it has low pressure on number 2 cylinder. We were hoping to be able to salvage the P's and C's but nope, not happening. So I picked up some new ones today!

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Next weekend we are going to do this one more time. R&R the motor and install the new P's and C's, then put it all back together. Hopefully for the last time.

This is what we get for thinking we could cut corners. The bug said, nope, not going to do that to me! LOL

Hopefully my next update will be a good one for the motor progress. Then I can move on to the upholstery. Very Happy

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Beetlebaum · Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:53 pm Post subject:

So if you have low compression in cylinders, they don't run correctly? (Is that what you're saying?) It may explain so many problems I have been having! Shocked

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justcruzin · Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:10 pm Post subject:

justcruzin · Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:58 pm Post subject:

Got a small update. Today I tried yet another carb on the bug. It idles really good. Just doesn't want to go down the road good. LOL We didn't really fine tune it, will be leaving that up to a friend of ours. My hubby thinks some of the problem may be the distributor. He thinks it may be wearing out. He checked the gap in the points and they were kind of wide. He adjusted them, and then we turned it over for a bit, checked them again and they were to close together. He wants to run this by our friend before we go any further.

After talking about things and how this motor seems to keep giving us hassles, we have decided to put hubby's 1776 in the bug for now. That way I can at least drive the bug and slowly rebuild it's 1600. We already did the p's and c's on it, so we can rebuild the heads, change the distributor and finally take our time and get it dialed in the right way. Tomorrow I will start the process of digging his motor out. It is currently on a shelf, buried by totes and other misc. stuff! LOL I'm not sure when we will get to the R&R of the motors, but I'm hoping to get it done soon. I so want to drive my bug. Very Happy

After having the running issues today, I kind of gave up on the car. Later in the day I had second thoughts and decided to work on other things that need to be done. So I finally fixed my horn. The PO had installed a push button horn that was attached to the side of the column. I wanted the stock horn. I had already purchased a new to me (used) horn ring and all of its bolts and all. I figured out that I was missing the wire that runs down the column. After running a new wire and installing the horn ring, I figured out it still didn't work! LOL I checked for power at the horn and had it, so that meant my horn was bad. R&R'd the horn and I am good to go!! Very Happy

New wire installed,

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Horn ring installed, finally! Very Happy

I bought this at the last Bugorama, so that kind of tells how long it has taken me to get to this project. LOL

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So even though I can't drive my bug, I can at least sit in it and drive my neighbors crazy by honking the horn! LOL
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Quiche · Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:00 am Post subject:

Love this! I'm going through the same kind of thing with my 64. Wanting so bad to drive it and running into little and large setbacks. You'll get it going good soon and then you can live the dream of riding in it. I'll just have to live vicariously through you Wink

till mine is up and going.
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Aynthm · Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:56 am Post subject:

That steering coupler is cracked.
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Jody '71 · Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:33 am Post subject:

Kim,
I wouldn't give up on your 1600 just yet. The 1600 SP in my '66 has a 205K distributor and a later model 30-1 carb. Very nice set-up, very stock.
Your probs may be with that 009. It may not be advancing properly. You didn't say what carb you last tried.

Try to find you an orginal 205K distributor that functions properly and holds good vacuum in the can. EMPI made a 30-1 repro a few years ago that was not machined properly, but I understand there are now new versions available that run real sweet without any modifications. See the "sticky" about the in- depth review Andy did. Great reading. Andy really knows his stuff.

I would replace that steering coupler!!!
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justcruzin · Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:05 pm Post subject:

I'm not giving up on the 1600 totally. Just going to get the bug running and drivable with a different motor and that way I can slowly rebuild the 1600. Although after what happened today, I'm not sure if this bug is ever going to run. Sad

I will explain after some pics. LOL

Here is the motor, ready to go back in. It's a 1776 with some kind of cam in it. Don't ask me what cam, but I just know it is bigger then normal. LOL

Can you see it is an 80/90's ara build. LOL
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Before I put it together, I checked the pre heats to make sure they were clear. Of course they weren't. I never heard of them being plugged before, and just learned about this doing my bus. Now it seems like every intake I run into is plugged! LOL

Here we are trying to unplug it.

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After some heat, air and a speedo cable and drill, we finally cleared it up. Very Happy

So I get the motor all back together, the guy's put it back in the car and today I finished putting all the stuff back on it and get it ready to fire. This is where the bad part comes in. The darn thing runs like crap. Check the valves, all is good. Finally start spraying carb cleaner around the intakes and of course, they are leaking. We ended up having to pull them back off, which is not easy to do when the motor is in the car. We found some of the asbestos type gaskets and replace the stupid tin gaskets with them. I still need to bolt the rest of the stuff back down, that will be tomorrows job.

Good news though, I finally got my mud flaps installed! LOL So I can't drive it but I can sit in it and honk the horn and now look at the nice shiney mud flaps! LOL

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I'm not having much luck with this bug though. Sure hope these other gaskets do the trick and hopefully tomorrow we will have it running good!
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