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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I canceled my BAD brakes order after waiting three weeks and NOT receiving shipment notification. I bought this kit from Old Speed, instead. It was slightly more, but parts were IN STOCK and the kit uses a 944 vented front rotor. The 5 x 205 kit is $1610 w/ master cylinder, bearings, races, braided stainless lines, 4-piston calipers, pads, brackets, & hardware.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what year of front beam is this installed on? any change in track?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buseric wrote:
what year of front beam is this installed on? any change in track?


It's an original front beam on '58 single cab. According to Old Speed (Russ), the kit does not change track width. I'm running 15" stock wheels. 14's may not clear.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thing worth mentioning, the master cylinder has a removable residual pressure valve. So when I have budget to do the rear disk upgrade, I don't need to replace the master cylinder again, I simply remove the res. pressure valve.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I cannot wait more than 3 weeks for mine. Pete @ Airkewld said 3 weeks max to my door, maybe sooner. While I am waiting for them, I will
put my stereo system in.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is more pics the caliper mount is not bolted to the spindle in these pics but is sitting close to get the idea
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SambaUser1M wrote:
Another thing worth mentioning, the master cylinder has a removable residual pressure valve. So when I have budget to do the rear disk upgrade, I don't need to replace the master cylinder again, I simply remove the res. pressure valve.
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Thanks. Can you share driving impressions when you get that far? I like this kit but it's gotta work awesome to justify the price to me. Looks slick in the pics.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

buseric wrote:
SambaUser1M wrote:
Another thing worth mentioning, the master cylinder has a removable residual pressure valve. So when I have budget to do the rear disk upgrade, I don't need to replace the master cylinder again, I simply remove the res. pressure valve.
j

Thanks. Can you share driving impressions when you get that far? I like this kit but it's gotta work awesome to justify the price to me. Looks slick in the pics.


Sure! I'm already extremely happy with the dramatic improvement in braking with just the front kit installed. Pedal feel is firm, and braking response is consistent. Right now, I'm happy to stop adjusting front brakes!

Personally, I dropped the extra money for Old Speed's kit b/c of the vented rotors. I'm building my engine for more torque and horsepower, so I want as much brake as I can find.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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buseric wrote:
SambaUser1M wrote:
Another thing worth mentioning, the master cylinder has a removable residual pressure valve. So when I have budget to do the rear disk upgrade, I don't need to replace the master cylinder again, I simply remove the res. pressure valve.
j

Thanks. Can you share driving impressions when you get that far? I like this kit but it's gotta work awesome to justify the price to me. Looks slick in the pics.


Sure! I'm already extremely happy with the dramatic improvement in braking with just the front kit installed. Pedal feel is firm, and braking response is consistent. Right now, I'm happy to stop adjusting front brakes!

Personally, I dropped the extra money for Old Speed's kit b/c of the vented rotors. I'm building my engine for more torque and horsepower, so I want as much brake as I can find.


Thanks didn't realize this was a bus already on the road. Glad to hear you are satisfied. Is their website oldspeed.com? I don't see that kit listed, site looks a little dated...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats the diameter of the rotor?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks didn't realize this was a bus already on the road. Glad to hear you are satisfied. Is their website oldspeed.com? I don't see that kit listed, site looks a little dated...


That's their site. "Dated" is a nice word for it. I told Russ I'd hire him a web designer to help get word of his kit out. Laughing So, his shop is quite successful and he prefers to work with his buyers to build the best solution for each buyer. So far, that means working with him over the phone. Call after 11:30 Pacific and he'll help you out.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chrisflstf wrote:
Whats the diameter of the rotor?


298mm
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SambaUser1M wrote:
That's their site. "Dated" is a nice word for it. I told Russ I'd hire him a web designer to help get word of his kit out. Laughing So, his shop is quite successful and he prefers to work with his buyers to build the best solution for each buyer. So far, that means working with him over the phone. Call after 11:30 Pacific and he'll help you out.



Russ is also always reasonably responsive to email and PMs, too, fwiw.

He builds a 14" version of the 944 front kit (using a turned down front rotor) for those interested at a similar price - http://www.kustomcoachwerks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=162355&highlight=#162355


+1 for someone else who wishes he'd get some product pages for the goodies he sells!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The baby stangs w/ wide 5 and a MC was $1240 cbperformance stainless lines are $40 so $1280

For $330 more you get old speed, 944 rotors, and Porsche pattern if u ever want to go that route.

Still waiting on my babystangs. I ordered them barely a week ago. And I'm not in a desperate rush. My brakes still all work. Just been having too many people pulling out in front of me and I'm having a slight pull, needs another adjustment.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lowindO wrote:
The baby stangs w/ wide 5 and a MC was $1240 cbperformance stainless lines are $40 so $1280


I talked to Nate about babystangs, and he's not yet offering a kit that fits pre-63 spindles.

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For $330 more you get old speed, 944 rotors, and Porsche pattern if u ever want to go that route.


If I'm not mistaken, Old Speed's 5x130 kit is priced considerably lower than their 5x205 kit.
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the delay's in shipping times. We have been blessed with stocking orders around the world that hurt any chance to have kits on the shelf. But everyday, 5-7 more kits go out the door to hopefully cure some of the headaches you are all facing.

Here is a kit that we just sent out to the guys a Cooker's Restorations in MD
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice setup Airkewld. Do they clear stock 15" Bus wheels?
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chrisflstf wrote:
Nice setup Airkewld. Do they clear stock 15" Bus wheels?


None of our brakes will clear, at least that is what we say. We have had some people get them on there, but the drop center of the wheel is to close to the caliper and could foul it. If you have 11 7/8" or more, then they will clear, if you don't, they will not.
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Installed and preferred by the guys at Cookers in MD.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a conversion some years ago using the 912 single rotor and the 944 non turbo hub with a spacer on before the first bearing. This gave me a bit of a mounting bracket space plus if you used no spacer the jam nut and bearing wouldn't fit.

I used 72> bus/van caliper on this conversion because of availability/sourcing etc.

Can anyone tell me if there is an upgrade to this caliper from Wilwood possibly?
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