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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, very cool to see the engineering behind the product.

Buuuut, it is still too big and bulky for my taste (and needs... or wants I guess).

I've seen some really sweet bumpers on the SDM '11 and Mog Fest photos. Seth (syncrozilla) and I think Frankensyncro (or whatever the name is - sorry) have the besty bumpers I've seen to date. Seths were custom Burely piece$, and frankensyncro built his own (front only).

Small (lowest profile possible), aesthetic, and well built. Until that day comes, I'll be keeping my stock bumpers.
I like it a lot, but must say, after riding in Frankensubysyncro(Davids') van through the pit, I am inclined to go that route as well. His bumpers and Seth's increase the approach angle considerably by cutting away some extra lip off the front. Very cool to see in action and even freakier to be in the front seat expecting a bump and not feeling anything Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All this whining and complaining yet I do not see a price, unless I missed it.


I think you have to go to their page and submit your email to get a quote.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From their website:

The NFB's availability and pricing depends on YOU! Over the next three-four weeks we will have pricing information available. We are going to produce the NFB in scheduled build groups to keep costs down. If you are interested in pricing information or in group scheduling information, please let us know by signing up below. We will never share email addresses, this info is used strictly to contact you with NFB updates.

http://bostig.com/index.php?option=com_content&...Itemid=254 Bostig NFB project page.

I really like the look - RMW and GoWesty have a good product, too. It's also fair that they are testing the market before they publish a price. Amortizing jigs and supplies can be a risky proposition, and when you are talking about such a niche market, forecasting sales is nearly impossible. Without the ability to forecast sales - you can't set price without gambling a lot of money.

/I was previously in manufacturing, and having enough confidence in a product that appeals to a small group of people to spend $$$$ on the capability to produce said product can be a pucker moment.


So many choices in bumpers. Let's hope that whether YOU want one or not, Bostig is successful in finding buyers - the health of vendors to these types of communities is integral to the health of the communities themselves.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I plan on building my own as well. But I am interested in the price of their DIY kit.



Stay tuned for mine. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, if you can get a comparable Jeep bumper for $400 like this one, there is no reason why companies charge what they do for Vanagons. I'm beginning to see it as the GW syndrome.

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Yes volume, and engineering time.
Go price an ARB or All-pro or Shrockworks bumper
Companies who are actually designing and building the product.
The $400 ones are either a single guy in a garage copying another design, or catalog asian copies.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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syncrogreg wrote:
Shocked a Solidworks license for vanagon business ?? they have to do pretty well to afford that!!



Funny, I was thinking the same thing. I know their stuff is premium price, and premium quality, but seems like a lot of overhead for a niche market business.

Do they do anything else? Just curious, not a rip. Maybe they farm out the CAD work?

Bumper is not my taste, but a nice design and seems well engineered.


You're kidding, right? Bostig is a business specializing in mechanical engineering projects. Solidworks is an investment -- it cuts their development costs. Small companies still have development costs. Heck, I have had SolidWorks since it first came out (1997), and I have a software company!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SolidWorks (and most other modeling software) is a tool that cannot be replaced these days.
couple that with 3D printing and the prototype time savings alone is worth every penny.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

buildyourown wrote:
The Raven wrote:

Well, if you can get a comparable Jeep bumper for $400 like this one, there is no reason why companies charge what they do for Vanagons. I'm beginning to see it as the GW syndrome.

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Yes volume, and engineering time.
Go price an ARB or All-pro or Shrockworks bumper
Companies who are actually designing and building the product.
The $400 ones are either a single guy in a garage copying another design, or catalog asian copies.


That Smittybuilt one there is the $400 bumper. Sure, you can spend $$$ on an ARB or others as there are fools in the jeeper market who think nothing of dropping a grand on a bumper too.

Think about it though, a bumper is supposed to;
1. Provide impact protection
2. provide a solid mounting location to pull from (winch or tow)
3. be designed to not hinder but benefit the intended use (off-road approach angle)

You can get these from a guy in his garage, or a big company. The price is determined by what people are willing to pay. If GW is able to get $800 for a set of their bumpers, any competition will easily be able to compete by making something better for more $$$ or comparable for the same...van cafe tube.

I could care less about american made, or name. Give me a functional product at a good price and I'll be happy.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hero419 wrote:
SolidWorks (and most other modeling software) is a tool that cannot be replaced these days.
couple that with 3D printing and the prototype time savings alone is worth every penny.


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Proficient SolidWorks user, day in and day out for many years.


x2 we just bought an updated Solidworks for my company as well. Definately costly, but allows someone to really design, engineer and build something in a very precise manner.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:17 am    Post subject: hey Reply with quote

thats so awsome man Woo hoo
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I could care less about american made, or name. Give me a functional product at a good price and I'll be happy.


That is sad to hear....of course, that attitude is why there are so many Wal-Marts in the world...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BushChicken wrote:
The Raven wrote:
I could care less about american made, or name. Give me a functional product at a good price and I'll be happy.


That is sad to hear....of course, that attitude is why there are so many Wal-Marts in the world...


Never said I would buy chinese either....I'll stick with european and canadian made. I'll buy american if is quality....not just because it says made in the USA. Just look at harley davidson...oh wait most of those parts are from the far east too. Shhh Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally dig it, looks bad ass!
Im guessing $1500 plus shipping.... ouch Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a picture of it from their website.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does look nice though...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Farfrumwork wrote:


I've seen some really sweet bumpers on the SDM '11 and Mog Fest photos. Seth (syncrozilla) and I think Frankensyncro (or whatever the name is - sorry) have the besty bumpers I've seen to date. Seths were custom Burely piece$, and frankensyncro built his own (front only).

Small (lowest profile possible), aesthetic, and well built. Until that day comes, I'll be keeping my stock bumpers.


Thanks for the Kudos, and Kudos to Bostig for designing a great looking and functional bumper. I like the modularity, frame mount winch attachment, no loss of approach angle, and it can be put together by a DIYer. Definitely a great syncro (and 2WD) option that has been missing.

I like the other bumpers too but this seems to address all the short comings of those. I am glad that the vendors are giving us choices besides the lame stock ones. I think vanagons look much better with aftermarket bumpers. As said before there just is not a lot of volume for vanagon bumpers especially a syncro oriented one.

If you think it costs too much, buy a welder, plasma cutter, bandsaw, tube bender, grinder etc. then buy the steel, design it, weld it, get it powder coated, make your van look sweet. PRICELESS!

I am excited about the roll cage designs shown in their sweet video. Talk about a niche market!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see why they would want to demo a new bumper on some rusted out crust bucket Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because it looks more like MY van and not a parking lot asphalt queen.

people who notice the bumer for it's awesomeness don't notice the crusty bus behind it.. and what's wrong with a crusty bus? you give yoru spouse a hard time when age starts to catch up with them? people can be so vain..

Function over form, leave the vanity to the license plates.

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I don't see why they would want to demo a new bumper on some rusted out crust bucket Shocked

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is called love and care for your ride. I have had over 30 VW's and have always fixed rust. They are trying to sell some nice new set up and convince you to buy it while its placed on some overly neglected ride. Take a look beyond the east coast Shocked Vanagons don't have to die because you drive them Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey bumper, nice mustache.
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