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splitjunkie
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Thanks for sharing these Björn!
surprisingly low post count on this topic.
Are there any pictures of the engine?
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eurodub
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any datas/owners/birth certificate? chassis number, manufacture day/month/year? engine shots? any relation between this and the chassis no 26?
i feel there's something in the air.. i feel something will emerge soon!
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Hi,
if i have luck tomorrow there will be a little sensation the next days Smile
Christian
( regarding the Typ 30 chassis ) "
Kdfkid
"Gentelmen, as I wrote previously, information is in the process of being gathered for the sake of being 100% sure, either way, since this period of the 20th century was (by all means) very dramatic and tracing documents and facts is a long run job. No info will go publicly until then, since this is not a common case. Thank you for your understanding. "
Andyvwbug
so...??
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piet&som
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| i feel there's something in the air.. i feel something will emerge soon! |
Me too! Could it be "Prague" linked??
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piet&som
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:50 am Post subject: Re: The Relict |
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Interesting wheels and hub caps. not your standard VW wheels. |
They look like V3/2 wheels.
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GeoffP
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Sure looks like it could be using some v3 suspension/brake parts maybe?
The wheelbase looks a little funny in this pic with the wheels not centered in the openings. As well the roof frame has been changed since the orig version and looks to give the driver and pass more head room.
as compared to this orig shot.
Top pic has the odd wheels that look like could be V3 (but strange valve stem cut out, the spare only has a dimple where the stem is.)
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IIIA-0426
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: The Relict |
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Interesting wheels and hub caps. not your standard VW wheels. |
They look like V3/2 wheels. |
I agree, the design looks similar. However, the V3 series had 17 inch rims, 3 inches wide with 4.50 tyres. The 1939 Typ 62 prototypes had special 18 inch wheels with off road tyres to increase ground clearance. The diff ratio had to be adjusted to account for the larger circumference of the wheels.
(source is Birth of the Beetle, C. Barber)
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splitjunkie
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: The Relict |
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Interesting wheels and hub caps. not your standard VW wheels. |
They look like V3/2 wheels. |
I agree, the design looks similar. However, the V3 series had 17 inch rims, 3 inches wide with 4.50 tyres. The 1939 Typ 62 prototypes had special 18 inch wheels with off road tyres to increase ground clearance. The diff ratio had to be adjusted to account for the larger circumference of the wheels.
(source is Birth of the Beetle, C. Barber) |
so does this mean they hadn't designed the gear reduction boxes yet?
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Kapt. Q
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| I think I read that the reduction hubs were ultimately used in the Kubelwagen primarily because the Heer (German Army) wanted a vehicle that moved at a soldiers walking/marching pace in first gear, in other words the prototype vehicles were deemed too fast! |
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KdF Kundendienst Berater
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Sure looks like it could be using some v3 suspension/brake parts maybe?
The wheelbase looks a little funny in this pic with the wheels not centered in the openings. As well the roof frame has been changed since the orig version and looks to give the driver and pass more head room.
as compared to this orig shot.
Top pic has the odd wheels that look like could be V3 (but strange valve stem cut out, the spare only has a dimple where the stem is.)
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Aaagh!!! What a nice finding!!!
It looks so nice and untouched, so I am wondering about its complete history.
To me, it looks like that the body doesn´t correspond correctly to that in the original photo?? 
Is it possible that the body is a later but old copy of the original?? 
Look at the downer part of the rear fender. In the original photo you can se a small triangle tin-piece, just as on early kübels, but in the photo from today, this part is missing. 
It could also be possible that this car has been undergoing a very hard restoration, and bad original-pieces has been changed to kübeltin replica-parts from todays Tjeckia?? 
I really love this one    , but I am still a little curious about its whereabouts since after the war. Are there any original pictures from the 1950´s and 1960´s for example, just to veriefye this cars existence back then?? 
regards from Roger in Sweden!! |
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PatterBon
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Engine pictures?
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WOB-SAM
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:38 pm Post subject: Old KÜBEL |
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Same same....
Please keep in mind - we are talking PROTOTYPES....
Every car was different - all cars went throug hundreds of modifications - hence being Prototypes....
The car in question - at some Point - also featured a 4Wheel Drive....
And yes, People - through the last 70 plus years - have tried to keep this car alive - and especially until the late seventies Restorations would tend to be improvisional.....
So glad to see - that this car survived until today....and propably further....maybe
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IIIA-0426
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Really curious about the W30 connection (not that we need one with such a special car!). The chassis in the gallery has the horizontally ribbed floorpans and fork design like on the VW38/39, so no W30 chassis. The fire wall sheet metal to me also looks bespoke, so no parts were taken here from the W30. What remains? Engine, steering and suspension components? Is the car still all wheel drive?
So much to learn from such a historical relic. |
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Undis
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Is the car still all wheel drive?
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Gets stuck while pulling a Schwimmwagen out of a muddy river. Definitely not all wheel drive.
Amazing to see such a rare car being enjoyed the way it should be!
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kdfkid
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:53 am Post subject: 62 |
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Hello,
thanks for the nice words .
The car was known since the late 50ths - the old familiy in austria is looking for some old pics they have fron the begining of 1961 - so when i get them i will post them here.
There was " restaured " in the early 80ths.
Here are some pis of inside - the work how they build the car is simular to our VW 38 and the 128 . Have fun
Christian
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KdF Kundendienst Berater
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At last some dents and rust!!!
Now it looks a bit more realistic, that it is as you also say, a restored original.
I really look forward to those old pictures from the sixties!!! 
After a first glance at the pictures a few days ago, I promised my KdF-friends in Sweden that I will eat my tyrolia-hat if this type 62 is for real!!
Well, it seems that I have to put a kettel on and heat up the water for that hat-dinner
We are stunned back here in Sweden, and we congrat´s you and your friends for this very rare find!!
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splitjunkie
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:02 am Post subject: Re: 62 |
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Interesting to see what looks like a metal conduit running from the front all the way to the engine compartment. Maybe the production klubels had them but I don't know much about them.
You can see it just poking up here
coming out in the engine compartment.
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gonebuggy
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Gets stuck while pulling a Schwimmwagen out of a muddy river. Definitely not all wheel drive.
Amazing to see such a rare car being enjoyed the way it should be!
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Cars are meant to be driven as they should (even if it is just once in a while ) Glad to see it's spirit being displayed here!
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Esteban Ramirez
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Greetings!
I liked this V.W., I had never seen!
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Kjell Roar
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nr 11
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Reasons enough, but no need to hurry up time.
I allready saw this amazing car.  |
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