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Infinite Monkeys Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2014 Posts: 3 Location: Los Alamos. NM.
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 6:55 am Post subject: Just bought a sand rail with lots of issues |
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Hi,
I joined this forum about 5 years ago when I had a dune buggy project, but this is my first post.
I just got a street legal sand rail with a VW front beam and a swing axle trany, which goes to an adopter to an old, Jeep Dauntless 225 odd fire V6. The engine is factory rated to about 150 hp and about 225 lb/tq. It's not even close to that right now. I'll rebuild the engine soon.
I'm looking for help in identifying the different VW components and where to get replacement parts.
Right now I need to remove the engine and see what the issue is with the clutch arm. It is stuck and will not engage. The PO said he replaced the TOB, so looks like that's a good place to start.
It had a hydraulic clutch, but I'm replacing that with the stock cable.
I'll pull the engine today and post some pics of the clutch and TOB. I need to make sure the right components are installed and done correctly.
Thanks.
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Infinite Monkeys Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2014 Posts: 3 Location: Los Alamos. NM.
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: Just bought a sand rail with lots of issues |
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The engine is out and I found why the clutch arm was stuck. Looks like a "C" clip that holds the TOB cross shaft in position had come out of the grove and the shaft was shifted. I slipped the C clip back into the grove and tried to move the arm, the C clip immediately slipped out of its grove.
I'm wondering if I need a new cross shaft, or just another C clip?
Also, is this the right TOB for this clutch?
Thank you for the help.
Edit: I just removed the shaft and it looks like there is not enough of a grove for the clip to ride in. Just looks like the grove is not deep enough? Does this sound right?
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dustymojave Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 5802 Location: Lake LA, Mojave Desert, SoCal
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Just bought a sand rail with lots of issues |
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With that ring in the center of the pressure plate, it matches the early style throwout bearing you show. If it had bare fingers in the center, it would require the late style TO bearing, which needs a late style trans case with the TO bearing support sleeve.
I would try a replacement clip 1st. And clean the groove before installing it. Then if it still pops out, replace the shaft. And probably get an HD shaft with the TO arms welded all around the shaft. _________________ Richard
Offroading VW based cars since 1965
Tech Inspection 1963 - 2012 SCCA/SCORE/HDRA/MORE/MDR +
Retired from building Bajas, Fiberglass Buggies and Rails in the Mojave Desert. Also Sprints & Midgets, Dry Lakes, Road Race cars. All types New and Vintage
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jspbtown Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 5157
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: Just bought a sand rail with lots of issues |
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Is that a huge crack to the right in your second picture? |
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jspbtown Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 5157
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: Just bought a sand rail with lots of issues |
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Is that a huge crack to the right in your second picture? |
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slalombuggy Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2010 Posts: 9147 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2019 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: Just bought a sand rail with lots of issues |
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There should be a bushing and sleeve that sits up against that snap ring that came off. If it isnt there the shaft will move side to side
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Infinite Monkeys Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2014 Posts: 3 Location: Los Alamos. NM.
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Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: Just bought a sand rail with lots of issues |
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I got a new HD TOB shaft and bushing kit ordered. Should be here in a day or so. Ordered one for the '61-'70 model. Hope that's right.
Will post back with the results.
Also, that is a gouge, not a crack in the above picture. Got me worried, it's 10:30 at night, had to go out with a flashlight and double check.
Thanks. |
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