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peterblodorn Samba Member
Joined: June 23, 2009 Posts: 12 Location: Vienna
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:16 pm Post subject: Wheel well Component original on my Samba? |
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| Hi I have recently bought an Samba 23 windowbus 1961. The VENT LOUVER TRIM is outside and the car fander is also outside. Is this original? I can send photo of this part if you give me your mail address. |
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joe56vw Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2004 Posts: 1335 Location: marysville wa
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Wheel well Component original on my Samba? |
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| peterblodorn wrote: | | Hi I have recently bought an Samba 23 windowbus 1961. The VENT LOUVER TRIM is outside and the car fander is also outside. Is this original? I can send photo of this part if you give me your mail address. |
louvers and trim yes by fander do you mean fender? if so it should be flat with no lip _________________ 56' panel made in wolfsburg(sold new project coming soon)
74' strandard
one stock one slammed the best of both worlds
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donald.lemay Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Like these louvers
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///Mink Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Lipped rear fender wells started after 1961, so no, it's not right. |
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peterblodorn Samba Member
Joined: June 23, 2009 Posts: 12 Location: Vienna
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| donald.lemay wrote: | Like these louvers
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how can I upload an image as you did? I would like to show you the photo of this part. thanks Peter |
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donald.lemay Samba Member

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peterblodorn Samba Member
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Mr Mike Samba Member
Joined: March 23, 2004 Posts: 697 Location: washington state
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:28 am Post subject: |
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I could be wrong, but to me that looks just like my late January
1963 15 window with outward vents and lip on wheel well.
In other words a '63 bus.
What does your M-code plate read? |
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peterblodorn Samba Member
Joined: June 23, 2009 Posts: 12 Location: Vienna
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:16 am Post subject: |
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| Mr Mike wrote: | I could be wrong, but to me that looks just like my late January
1963 15 window with outward vents and lip on wheel well.
In other words a '63 bus.
What does your M-code plate read? |
Hi, The chassi number is: 968 281 and there is an M 043 and M 197 Code.
Samba was built on 5th of June 1962 (Colour L325 Mausgrau) and Contry of dstinatiion was: Salzburg / Austria. (Model 241, VW-Kleinbus, Sondermodell) |
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Mr Mike Samba Member
Joined: March 23, 2004 Posts: 697 Location: washington state
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Looking at the David Eccles Specification guide for VW transporter
1950 - 1967 It says the 1963 model year for export buses started
30 july of 1963 and in Germany it began 1 October 1962.
I'm thinking your bus is a very early 1963 that was fitted with M- code
043 which states : complies with Swiss market regulations.
Apparently it was intended for export to that country originaly.
Unfortunately I was not able to locate M- code 097.
Basicaly to answer your original question, I believe the vents and wheel
well lip are correct for your bus. I also believe its an early sixty-three model, not a sixty-one as you were told. |
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 42169 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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The rear wheel arch started with VIN # 971550 according the VW book Progressive Refinements:
Do you think the rear arches have been replaced? _________________ How to: Post Photos | Search
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peterblodorn Samba Member
Joined: June 23, 2009 Posts: 12 Location: Vienna
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:10 am Post subject: |
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| EverettB wrote: | The rear wheel arch started with VIN # 971550 according the VW book Progressive Refinements:
Do you think the rear arches have been replaced? |
I got an Zertifikat of the Volkswagen Museum that this Samba has been Built 5th of July 1962. |
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EverettB  Administrator

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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:01 am Post subject: |
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Maybe they started earlier... if your rear wheel arches are original. _________________ How to: Post Photos | Search
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Clara  Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:05 am Post subject: |
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It would be interesting to know if it came with the humpback front seat or the 1/3 2/3 front seat.
Do you have a pic of the seat stand area? |
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peterblodorn Samba Member
Joined: June 23, 2009 Posts: 12 Location: Vienna
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:05 pm Post subject: Seats 1 |
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| Clara wrote: | It would be interesting to know if it came with the humpback front seat or the 1/3 2/3 front seat.
Do you have a pic of the seat stand area? |
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peterblodorn Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: Seats 1 |
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| peterblodorn wrote: | | Clara wrote: | It would be interesting to know if it came with the humpback front seat or the 1/3 2/3 front seat.
Do you have a pic of the seat stand area? |
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peterblodorn Samba Member
Joined: June 23, 2009 Posts: 12 Location: Vienna
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: Seats 1 |
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| peterblodorn wrote: | | peterblodorn wrote: | | Clara wrote: | It would be interesting to know if it came with the humpback front seat or the 1/3 2/3 front seat.
Do you have a pic of the seat stand area? |
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Here are the two links for the fotos of the seats.
It would be good to know for 100% how this Samba was built originaly because I would like to do the restauration as it was originaly.
If you have any idears from where I can get this informaiton please let me know.
Thanks
Peter |
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crofty Judas of the North

Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 16948 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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"Seat stand area" is the area where the front seat(s) sit. _________________ I don't mind eccentric people i just don't care for shit heads.
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EverettB  Administrator

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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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It looks like a bench seat.
I believe Clara is trying to ask you if your Bus has these types of seat mounts:
Notice the 3 adjustments.
I think yes? _________________ How to: Post Photos | Search
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olliehank47 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Your bus is certainly a 62 model year given the COA, build date, and VIN. I am no expert on this but after a bit of research I believe the VW Book is in error as every 62 bus I've been able to find a picture of has the lip on the wheel well. I suspect the change began with the 62 model year bus and since your bus is a late 62, I would have no doubt that the wheel well lip is original.
I even found a 62 with a VIN of 827XXX that had the lip which makes that bus a very early 62, likely made in August of 1961. |
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