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rcraigbug Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:25 pm Post subject: Old German License Plate |
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Can anybody help trace this plate, I believe it is from Wiesbaden, Germany around 1954. Is it possible to find out the registered owner from back then? It reads ?-68-6363
Thanks.
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volksfahrer Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:45 am Post subject: Re: Old German License Plate |
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rcraigbug wrote: |
Can anybody help trace this plate, I believe it is from Wiesbaden, Germany around 1954. Is it possible to find out the registered owner from back then? It reads ?-68-6363
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if the car on the photo was from Wiesbaden (Hessen) the no.plate starts with
AH (Amerikanische Besatzungszone Hessen) |
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pbaptist Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like you found a picture, I don't know yet.....
I am very interested in the whole picture. You have my E-mail
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volksfahrer Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:06 am Post subject: |
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pbaptist wrote: |
Looks like you found a picture, I don't know yet.....
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no, I didn´t, just found some informations about the pre -56 german license plate system |
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rcraigbug Samba Member
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theastronaut Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:09 am Post subject: |
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Thats's an awesome website! I was about to start building my own custom plate for my '64 but I'll just buy one instead and save abunch of time!
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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theastronaut wrote: |
Thats's an awesome website! I was about to start building my own custom plate for my '64 but I'll just buy one instead and save abunch of time!
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I thought about getting one from them once but the font and spacing looked a little off. _________________ 2000 Golf TDi
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Erik G Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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old thread revival
I believe my car was purchased new at Autohaus Ritzinger oHG - Eggenfelden July 1963
(I apologize, I know wrong forum but I searched and couldnt come up with a better place to ask)
All paperwork I have looks like the original license plate in 1963 was 190-Z-549. Is that even German? It doesnt look like any format I've seen. Possibly Czech? Or Austrian? I'd like to confirm origin, and get reproduced
Thanks in advance for any help
2 documents I have stating this #
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usariemen Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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190-Z-549 is not a german licence plate.
Thought it is written in german but even the title looks not like a usual german one. Eggenfelden is close to the border and the other bill is from Vienna. So it is from Austria maybe?
As the owner has an USA adress. Could it have been a member of the US forces with a special military licence plate? _________________ Master of my domain! |
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piet&som Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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It's probably a German "Zoll" plate for export.
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Erik G Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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usariemen wrote: |
190-Z-549 is not a german licence plate.
Thought it is written in german but even the title looks not like a usual german one. Eggenfelden is close to the border and the other bill is from Vienna. So it is from Austria maybe?
As the owner has an USA adress. Could it have been a member of the US forces with a special military licence plate? |
thank you, it did not make sense to me either
It is possible he was in the US military, but I don't think so. Car was purchased July 4th 1963, Owner to leave Germany August 15 1963, car departed August 23 1963, shipping reciept is from Bremen and his hotel was Hotel Stadt Rosenheim Munchen
I suppose he could have been on a tour of duty, had leave for a few weeks before returning home, and purchased the car to only drive a few weeks. From my reseach on the original owner, I think he would have been in his late 40's, so I assumed he went for a visit, and not for military.
Here is what has been published about the car. I do not know if it is 100% accurate though
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As I understand, the car was purchased abroad, by John Maderik of Woodside NY, while visiting family and I do know the car spent it's 1st few months on the road all over Europe. I have receipts for service and even an envelope with the only writing stating the oil was changed in Piestany, Czechslovakia on 8/2/63. Many documents were included with the car, some of which are the letter from VW thanking Mr. Maderik for his purchase, in German of course, the cars' passport, international insurance papers, and the papers when freight was arranged to bring the car back to the US. |
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Erik G Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:03 am Post subject: 1950 German split beetle licence plate |
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Does anyone have a few pics of examples of an original 1950 German license plate? My 1950 split was sold at the Otto Glockner dealership in Germany. Tim |
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mandraks Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:54 am Post subject: |
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http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_deutschen_K....80.931956 _________________ regards
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usariemen Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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If sold by Otto Glöckler in Frankfurt it had the old black with white writing AH - 4.... number plate.
AH is for Amerikan zone in the area of Hessen in Germany.
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