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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay data will be coming soon! Got school and work right now, I'll have the measurements by tomorrow!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay sorry guys for the suuuuper late update, I went out to get measurement and the car was sitting fine without doing anything, its like it just...went to normal by itself? Hah.

Also, the bigger update for the night though, a T-34 might fall into my laps in the next few days, and I'm thinking I want to get it. My question is, is anything inter changeable such as the gas tank? Master cylinder? Anything of those sorts? Its a type 3 isnt it?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

qoopwn wrote:

Also, the bigger update for the night though, a T-34 might fall into my laps in the next few days, and I'm thinking I want to get it. My question is, is anything inter changeable such as the gas tank? Master cylinder? Anything of those sorts? Its a type 3 isnt it?


Most of the drive train and floor parts are the same. Where a T-34 differs from a "standard" T-3 is in the body, as almost nothing interchanges with it. Depending on the M-code, the headlights might interchange, and the wiper motor (motor only), and the wiper arms, but that's it. The fuel tank is the same as the pre-68 cars (62 to 67 models). Also, the front seats and seat tracks are T-34 only, along with the rear seat kick panel.
Look in my T-34 thread, to see what I've been going thru with mine, and you'll get a good idea of what's going on. Rolling Eyes Also, keep in mind these cars were known to rust (they didn't get dipped like a "standard" t-3 did), so plan on doing some rust repair work. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also, the bigger update for the night though, a T-34 might fall into my laps in the next few days, and I'm thinking I want to get it. My question is, is anything inter changeable such as the gas tank? Master cylinder? Anything of those sorts? Its a type 3 isnt it?


Most of the drive train and floor parts are the same. Where a T-34 differs from a "standard" T-3 is in the body, as almost nothing interchanges with it. Depending on the M-code, the headlights might interchange, and the wiper motor (motor only), and the wiper arms, but that's it. The fuel tank is the same as the pre-68 cars (62 to 67 models). Also, the front seats and seat tracks are T-34 only, along with the rear seat kick panel.
Look in my T-34 thread, to see what I've been going thru with mine, and you'll get a good idea of what's going on. Rolling Eyes Also, keep in mind these cars were known to rust (they didn't get dipped like a "standard" t-3 did), so plan on doing some rust repair work. Wink


Yeah thats what I was thinking Bob, I looked at your thread from start to finish last night (took me ages) and I think I'm just going to use the money I would have invested into the 34 on my fasty, getting everything perfect, paint, blasted and probably powder coated. All that good stuff. And some pan repair. I think that'll be the best thing for me in the long run.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also, the bigger update for the night though, a T-34 might fall into my laps in the next few days, and I'm thinking I want to get it. My question is, is anything inter changeable such as the gas tank? Master cylinder? Anything of those sorts? Its a type 3 isnt it?


Most of the drive train and floor parts are the same. Where a T-34 differs from a "standard" T-3 is in the body, as almost nothing interchanges with it. Depending on the M-code, the headlights might interchange, and the wiper motor (motor only), and the wiper arms, but that's it. The fuel tank is the same as the pre-68 cars (62 to 67 models). Also, the front seats and seat tracks are T-34 only, along with the rear seat kick panel.
Look in my T-34 thread, to see what I've been going thru with mine, and you'll get a good idea of what's going on. Rolling Eyes Also, keep in mind these cars were known to rust (they didn't get dipped like a "standard" t-3 did), so plan on doing some rust repair work. Wink


Yeah thats what I was thinking Bob, I looked at your thread from start to finish last night (took me ages) and I think I'm just going to use the money I would have invested into the 34 on my fasty, getting everything perfect, paint, blasted and probably powder coated. All that good stuff. And some pan repair. I think that'll be the best thing for me in the long run.


I agree with you. First, you already know what you've got, and can work with it, two, you're not digging into another project without having first completed the original one. Look at some of us here, we've got several projects (or just 1) that take up our time and money. When you've got 2 or more cars, you have to decide which 1 gets the time and money tossed at it. In my case, IF Russ hadn't "made me an offer I couldn't refuse", I'd probably be done with my 71 Square-vert, and doing (or already done) some rust repair work on my 65 Notch again, as it's got a spot that just keeps haunting me, but at least now I have a replacement section here to weld in and fix it. It didn't get the name "Krusty" by accident. Wink

Maybe later on, after you've got this car like you want it, put a bunch of miles on it, and made it extremely reliable, you'll be ready for another car to work on (a mind diversion Wink ). Plus, you'll have a better idea of what's involved in doing up a car. Or your focus might have changed (like Notchboy's), and you'll want something else.
But I'll tell you 1 thing, doing a T-34 is not an easy project. Shocked It's probably 1 of the most difficult, expensive project cars I've ever tried doing. It makes doing a Notch look easy. Surprised
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Also, the bigger update for the night though, a T-34 might fall into my laps in the next few days, and I'm thinking I want to get it. My question is, is anything inter changeable such as the gas tank? Master cylinder? Anything of those sorts? Its a type 3 isnt it?


Most of the drive train and floor parts are the same. Where a T-34 differs from a "standard" T-3 is in the body, as almost nothing interchanges with it. Depending on the M-code, the headlights might interchange, and the wiper motor (motor only), and the wiper arms, but that's it. The fuel tank is the same as the pre-68 cars (62 to 67 models). Also, the front seats and seat tracks are T-34 only, along with the rear seat kick panel.
Look in my T-34 thread, to see what I've been going thru with mine, and you'll get a good idea of what's going on. Rolling Eyes Also, keep in mind these cars were known to rust (they didn't get dipped like a "standard" t-3 did), so plan on doing some rust repair work. Wink


Yeah thats what I was thinking Bob, I looked at your thread from start to finish last night (took me ages) and I think I'm just going to use the money I would have invested into the 34 on my fasty, getting everything perfect, paint, blasted and probably powder coated. All that good stuff. And some pan repair. I think that'll be the best thing for me in the long run.


I agree with you. First, you already know what you've got, and can work with it, two, you're not digging into another project without having first completed the original one. Look at some of us here, we've got several projects (or just 1) that take up our time and money. When you've got 2 or more cars, you have to decide which 1 gets the time and money tossed at it. In my case, IF Russ hadn't "made me an offer I couldn't refuse", I'd probably be done with my 71 Square-vert, and doing (or already done) some rust repair work on my 65 Notch again, as it's got a spot that just keeps haunting me, but at least now I have a replacement section here to weld in and fix it. It didn't get the name "Krusty" by accident. Wink

Maybe later on, after you've got this car like you want it, put a bunch of miles on it, and made it extremely reliable, you'll be ready for another car to work on (a mind diversion Wink ). Plus, you'll have a better idea of what's involved in doing up a car. Or your focus might have changed (like Notchboy's), and you'll want something else.
But I'll tell you 1 thing, doing a T-34 is not an easy project. Shocked It's probably 1 of the most difficult, expensive project cars I've ever tried doing. It makes doing a Notch look easy. Surprised


Yeah it looks like a T-34 would be a lot of time, and money, both of which I wont be having due to school picking up since I've almost got my bachelors. Very Happy Woo. But I'm always on the lookout for a fasty or type 3 donor, just in case it has better pans, bumpers, steering wheel etc. etc Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I've been looking into some distributors since the one I have is from a bug, and because of the we can't get the correct timing. The vacuum advance canister hits the fuel pump so we can't turn it anymore, and its stuck at like 8* BTC which isnt..great. So I was looking at the SVDA Disty (I believe Bob mentioned it earlier) and it seems pretty nice. However, my question is about the coil. It says it needs a 45,000 volt coil, which is advertised with the distributor. I have a blue coil in the car at the moment and I also have the stock original black Bosch coil. Does anyone know the correct amount of volts and ohms each comes with? Or do I have to buy this other coil along with the distributor?
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No updates at the moment, but school is ending within the next week and I'll have all summer to work and spend on the car. I've been driving her for awhile, I'd say 40 miles a week? Just to shake the old rust off her from sitting awhile. I'm going to be buying the SVDA Distributor I think, along with new shocks and maybe even gerson's floor pans. Always still looking for a parts car, and hopefully with the stocks and stuff the car will level itself out. Otherwise I'll be diving under to see if the car needs to be adjusted with the splines and stuff. Anyways, updates will be coming soon. Shes almost a daily driver Smile
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A used stock FI distributor w/black or blue coil will run good & is simple to fix.

Patch your pans as needed & Master Series them.

Shocks are not made to level your car. I doubt you Need new shocks. Raise the low corner 1 inner or outer spline. Get the 2 sides within 1/2" of each other and call it Good!

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding shifters, would I need a specific 1969 shifter to fit my car or would any year fit my car, but with a specific '69 lockout plate? Cant seem the info I'm looking for with the search function. Or possibly a 67-69 shifter would work? This shitty repop from CIP1 isnt going to cut it for me.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No,Yes,No,Yes
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This shitty repop from CIP1 isnt going to cut it for me.


It's a t-3 specific shifter. Mike probably has 1 if you ask him. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No,Yes,No,Yes


I can't even dissect my own post with your no yes no yes Confused haha. Only part I know is the "yes" for the CIP1 crappy shifter Razz
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This shitty repop from CIP1 isnt going to cut it for me.


It's a t-3 specific shifter. Mike probably has 1 if you ask him. Wink


Hmmm..okay. I'll have to....ask him about that *cough* Rolling Eyes
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would I need a specific 1969 shifter to fit my car? no
would any year fit my car? no - 69 and up for IRS
specific '69 lockout plate? lock out is part of shifter plate unless you use a lockout shifter.

This shitty repop from CIP1 isnt going to cut it for me. duh... Smile
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vdubin wrote:
would I need a specific 1969 shifter to fit my car? no
would any year fit my car? no - 69 and up for IRS
specific '69 lockout plate? lock out is part of shifter plate unless you use a lockout shifter.

This shitty repop from CIP1 isnt going to cut it for me. duh... Smile


Ohhh okay awesome, yeah I meant like the reverse lockout thing..it shows it in the book I have Shocked
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vdubin wrote:
would I need a specific 1969 shifter to fit my car? no
would any year fit my car? no - 69 and up for IRS
specific '69 lockout plate? lock out is part of shifter plate unless you use a lockout shifter.

This shitty repop from CIP1 isnt going to cut it for me. duh... Smile


I told goopwn I was gonna send him a '67 SA shifter/boot/plate. I don't think that IRS changes the shifter?
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Mike Fisher wrote:
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would I need a specific 1969 shifter to fit my car? no
would any year fit my car? no - 69 and up for IRS
specific '69 lockout plate? lock out is part of shifter plate unless you use a lockout shifter.

This shitty repop from CIP1 isnt going to cut it for me. duh... Smile


I told goopwn I was gonna send him a '67 SA shifter/boot/plate. I don't think that IRS changes the shifter?


It doesn't matter. As long it's a t-3 shifter.
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She almost caught on fire..thank god I got home in time.... Laughing
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I need some professional opinion here. Car in Colorado is up for sale, nice looking motor (although dirty from who knows how long seems to have everything there) straight body, and from emails a beautiful pan. However I'm in California. Is 700+ in shipping worth it for this car? I've got my project at home and I would use this as parts or maybe a body swap or a pan swap. I've got a manual, this is an automatic. I know the complications of converting one to the other so I dont think that is in the works for me. Maybe cutting out the sections I need. Bumpers look nice (I have none) nice steering wheel, heating components and a good looking motor with all the heating bellows and elbows I need. Stock carbs and the stock air filter. Any 2cents is appreciated.
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