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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:01 pm    Post subject: Toggle switches for my 68 beetle Reply with quote

I want to change my switches to toggle switches on my 68 beetle. Does anyone know how to do this? Lots of wires going to the same switches, need directions and pictures, please? thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

change what switches?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

changing the switches could be problematic cause where are you going to but them? in the old switch holes? they definately wont fit. i would just pull them out and swich wired from one wither to the other
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:59 pm    Post subject: 68 bug switches Reply with quote

I want to change the switches to the lights, wipers, emergency flasher lights, and add a momentary switch for the window washer and a toggle switch for the dome lights. I plan to put them in the dash after removing the pad (it's all cracked anyway). You can use a large washers with the holes the size of the switch mount. And maybe some lights to show what switch is on.
I want to clean up the dash area and paint it to match the inside. Normally you could just tie the wires together with wire nuts, then attach them to the the tabs on the switch. But the wipers have a delay to stow the wipers back where they belong. I plan to put a aircraft (red) cover over the emergency flasher switch to give it that aircraft look.
What do you think??
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think your loosing it !

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guessing it's just for visual purposes?

Why not just get some nice shiny billet knobs

The hazard and wiper switches are fairly complex, wiper switch has to send power for the park mechanism as well as two speeds and the hazard switch has to power up the relay when ignition is off but also change it over to turnsignal power once its on.

Even the headlight switch has several functions, rheostat, parker circuit etc.

It could be done but you are creating a huge job for yourself.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate to say this but you may be creating a mess for the next owner to fix. That is unless you have the determination to finish the job and make it look nice and neat.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reducing the value of the car !
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Race cars, rails, buggies, ext have been set up like that for years. Its going to be A pane in the ass to do all the custom wiring but can be dun Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:47 pm    Post subject: toggle switches Reply with quote

I think the stock or those billet knobs are very ugly. It is much more fun and looks better to flip a toggle switch. I'm building a custom car, not your looks like you bought it off the show room floor or grandma's kind of car. Race cars and most really good custom cars use them. So don't dog me about my ideas of what looks good, ok?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't dogging anyone's taste. I've seen some very nice custom jobs on here and at car shows. As long as you know the job is going to take twice and long and twice as much effort as orginally planned....I say go for it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: toggle switches Reply with quote

dingdow wrote:
I think the stock or those billet knobs are very ugly. It is much more fun and looks better to flip a toggle switch. I'm building a custom car, not your looks like you bought it off the show room floor or grandma's kind of car. Race cars and most really good custom cars use them. So don't dog me about my ideas of what looks good, ok?


WOOOOOOOOOo big fella... your getting you panties bunched up for no reason! know one told you it was stupid... Just that its going to take some planing and work to pull it off Wink


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:57 pm    Post subject: 68 switches Reply with quote

I understand, I'm just looking for some help on planning it all out, that's all. I'm cool with ya'all, ok? Wiring is a mess at best anyway. I have been chasing a wiring problem since I bought this one. So I'm just looking for away to do this. Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 68 switches Reply with quote

dingdow wrote:
I understand, I'm just looking for some help on planning it all out, that's all. I'm cool with ya'all, ok? Wiring is a mess at best anyway. I have been chasing a wiring problem since I bought this one. So I'm just looking for away to do this. Any ideas?


It's gonna' require a few specialty switches and relays, just about each one of these ideas has been taken on by someone in the past. Do some searches across the internet and you should be on your way to learning.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:52 pm    Post subject: 68 switches Reply with quote

cool thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

didnt the later models (maybe 74+ super) have toggle switches? you might be able to rewire your car so that you could use those toggles. this would also give you a good head start on how it should be wired because you would be able to check out the wiring diagrams to help work out some of the probs involved with the changes.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, rocker switches, and the dashpanel has special moulded in sections to clip them in place

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My airplane doesn't have any cover over any hazard switch Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatterBon wrote:
My airplane doesn't have any cover over any hazard switch Confused


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just throw in a rocker on some drilled sheet metal - If you going to custom the dash - weld the sheet metal panel in
Then wire in a relay like below - the toggle or rocker on off switch would go between the 30 and to power
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As I showed before take a piece of rectangular tubing and then just rest the entire panel across the bottom of the dash - If you’re looking for a simple
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