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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried a urethane version?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That will be next if this on fails.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so...transmission? Inquiring minds need to know...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

denwood wrote:
so...transmission? Inquiring minds need to know...


Well that's another story. I thought this one would fail quickly, but I was wrong. I am currently working on building a new house with a 9 car radiant heated garage. So I will be tied up for awhile with that.
I can say this though. It won't work with a Subaru motor but will work well with a v6, v8 or any inline engine. I have see this set up with a BMW engine.
Subaru is just to wide.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our building here (super insulated blah blah) has 4800 sq/ft of over poured radiant heat spec'd by yours truly during our acquisition/gut/expansion last year...staff loves it when it's -35 C outside. Not sure if I'd do radiant again given the fact that we have 5 air handlers as well to deal with AC and fresh air...in a superinsulated building. At just a fraction over ambient, the floor will overheat the space...so it never feels "warm". Heating costs for 10 000 sq ft (winter temps at -35C coldest) at worst were $280 for a month. For the business across the street with less space... (not so efficient) $2000 over the same period.

That said, on a 9 car garage with leaky doors etc., that warm slab will feel pretty crazy toasty. Champagne wishes, caviar dreams..9 car, sheesh. Might as well throw an evauated tube array up on your roof while you're at it Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kuleinc wrote:
Have you tried a urethane version?


badassdubs wrote:
That will be next if this on fails.



Urethane is not suited to the shear forces that are applied to the steering joint. Look up the failures that the lightweight Beetles have with urethane. Think what the Vanagon would do to them.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Holy schniekies, that thing is a new one??


I just replaced mine with a new rubber one, I will keep a close eye on it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That has to be a PO issue, not knowing how to pull up to or away from a curb or something like that. Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

denwood wrote:
Our building here (super insulated blah blah) has 4800 sq/ft of over poured radiant heat spec'd by yours truly during our acquisition/gut/expansion last year...staff loves it when it's -35 C outside. Not sure if I'd do radiant again given the fact that we have 5 air handlers as well to deal with AC and fresh air...in a superinsulated building. At just a fraction over ambient, the floor will overheat the space...so it never feels "warm". Heating costs for 10 000 sq ft (winter temps at -35C coldest) at worst were $280 for a month. For the business across the street with less space... (not so efficient) $2000 over the same period.

That said, on a 9 car garage with leaky doors etc., that warm slab will feel pretty crazy toasty. Champagne wishes, caviar dreams..9 car, sheesh. Might as well throw an evauated tube array up on your roof while you're at it Smile


It doesn't get to cold or hot where I'm at so that won't be an issue. The house will be radiant heat also. Normally we only need ac for a few days here. All structures will be spray foam insulation so it should be fairly tight.
That $280 vs $2000 tells the whole story.

Yes that is a new one. A few pages back you can see where I talked about the new one and showed the old 30+ year original. Scary stuff.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes that is a new one. A few pages back you can see where I talked about the new one and showed the old 30+ year original. Scary stuff.

For the life of me, I cannot find any pictures, or mention of the old one in this thread ...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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badassdubs wrote:
Yes that is a new one. A few pages back you can see where I talked about the new one and showed the old 30+ year original. Scary stuff.

For the life of me, I cannot find any pictures, or mention of the old one in this thread ...


My bad. Here it is. Hard to believe it could deteriorate like this in only one year. It crumbles in your hand. The one on the right is the original vanagon one.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow.
(Thanks for the sanity check!)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:36 pm    Post subject: Original? Reply with quote

badassdubs wrote:
GreenMachineVW wrote:
badassdubs wrote:
Yes that is a new one. A few pages back you can see where I talked about the new one and showed the old 30+ year original. Scary stuff.

For the life of me, I cannot find any pictures, or mention of the old one in this thread ...


My bad. Here it is. Hard to believe it could deteriorate like this in only one year. It crumbles in your hand. The one on the right is the original vanagon one.

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OK. First off -Holy Freaking WOW on your magnificent everything!!!

But on the steering thing - is that a New one, and a one year old one, or is that a new one, beside a one year's use one that looks like 30 years of use?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm starting to get confused now. Here is the correct order.

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UPDATE: Well I have no updates. Sorry. The van has been almost trouble
free, only minor issues. Cooling setup has been trouble free. Mileage has been around 15 mpg. Not too bad considering it is running in open loop.
Future plan is to run meqasquirt 3 to remedy the situation. Along with true vortec heads and marine fuel injection. The transmission swap is calling me, so that might happen sooner than later.[/img]


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice build, it's good to see someone trying a less ordinary engine swap. I was looking at all the different engine adapters at the KEP website and wonder why so few of them get used.

I'd love to see the s2000 engine in a sweet lowered GL.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. You have to be careful on the small displacement engines. You need to look at the torque the motor makes. Hondas are low on torque and that is what is needed to move a big heavy van. 150 torque is too low in my book.
260 torque in the vortec v6 is a real mover. This has been driven for a year now with no transmission problems. Treat it right and don't drive it like you stole it. My trans has approx. 150K+ miles on it.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zoinks. As with others, am finding it hard to see how that coupler started to fail in only 3000 miles.

Thankfully, it seems that part of the design allows for some poor feel to driver before failing completely. Link to an old webpage of mine containing an image of severely failed coupler (not mine) that IIRC, was still somehow in use. https://sites.google.com/site/tubaneil2/steeringcouplingdiscfrom%2781

I'd be very curious as to the price paid for that then new part. i.e. there must be a marked difference between any NOS and newer offerings.

Glad to hear your conversion has been trouble free!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I was thinking about changing the heads and installing a marine fuel injection setup along with megasquirt, which would have run about $2K, but I decided to work with what I had and decided to burn my own chips.

I went with Moats http://www.moates.net/gm-19851995-c-64.html since he seemed to have the best setup for my needs. I purchased the chip adapter, zif socket, ALDL w/cable and the chip burner. There is a bit of a learning curve but so far I have been able to get rid of the automatic transmission codes. No more check engine light. I also made a VSS or reluctor ring as GM calls it and attached it to the cv joint at the trans along with a gm vss sensor.
Finally the ecu knows that the van is moving and it goes into closed loop. The chip adapter allows me to keep my original EPROM, which only allows the use of the limp home mode and cruise control part of it, while also utilizing the zif socket for the burnable chip. The zif socket makes it easy to remove the chip for burning purposes by just moving the lever and will be permanently removed once I have the chip calibrated to where I want it.
You can also burn on the fly but I chose just to remove the chip to burn it because of the added expense.

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As of a few months ago an app for OBD1 was created so I purchased that along with a Bluetooth adapter which makes it really easy to see what is going on.

Bluetooth adapter.
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GM also uses what is called a DRAC and is for adjustment of gear ratio and tire size along with converting the AC signal from the VSS sensor to a DC output. I installed a dip switch to make adjustments easier. I use this only for the ecu, not for the speedo as I have a skydrive gps for that.

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Still learning but hoping to improve gas mileage. Driveability has already changed. Once I put in the new trans I will also be able to set that up also
with this program. I use tuner pro. http://www.tunerpro.net/


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:58 pm    Post subject: amazing Reply with quote

I suspect I am not alone in being impressed by your knowledge and application thereof. Awesome! Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you.
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