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BugZyla.com Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Outright is $350. I have to pay $50 per arm for cores. We can do beetle arms also and modify the shock mount to match the Thing mount, as well as add the extra braceing to the top of the bump stop bracket. _________________ Daryll http://www.azbaja.com P.R.
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joescoolcustoms  Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | We can do beetle arms also and modify the shock mount to match the Thing mount.
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I was thinking that there are a few Baja guys that would rather go a little longer with a stock arm than switch to 2X2's or 3X3's just to get some more tire clearance. And the shock mount would not have to be altered. _________________ The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I was thinking that there are a few Baja guys that would rather go a little longer with a stock arm than switch to 2X2's or 3X3's just to get some more tire clearance. And the shock mount would not have to be altered. |
longer and wider. 1 X 1 or 1.5 X 1.5 keeps the driveline angles sane.
the benefits of longer and wider wihout the aggravation of 3X3s. The trick would be to design it around an existing drive axle length _________________ 73 Beetle, Ghia front brakes, Type 3 rear brakes, 1776, Solex 34 Pict-3, Bosch SVDA, '97 Mustang seats
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saddlesore1 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Have you tested the shock mounts and the bump stops out on an existing Thing?
It make no sense that you can legnthen by 1.5" and have no residual effect on shocks.
1st of all the shocks would have to be longer. otherwise what is the purpose?
2nd. would there not be a bind or chaffing of the shock at the lower mount. The angle of the shock would be less straight up and down and more of a 45 degree angle.
3rd. The bump stop would not line up at all. The angle have changed as well as the resting location (Fully collapsed) of the lower to the upper. |
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sixty9fasty Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| saddlesore1 wrote: | Have you tested the shock mounts and the bump stops out on an existing Thing?
It make no sense that you can legnthen by 1.5" and have no residual effect on shocks.
1st of all the shocks would have to be longer. otherwise what is the purpose?
2nd. would there not be a bind or chaffing of the shock at the lower mount. The angle of the shock would be less straight up and down and more of a 45 degree angle.
3rd. The bump stop would not line up at all. The angle have changed as well as the resting location (Fully collapsed) of the lower to the upper. |
Unless my eyes deceive me. Did you look at the pics? He just lengthened the arm behind where the bump stop mounts... So the shock mount is in the stock location, and so is the bump stop... _________________ My Oval Project
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ZylaJr Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| sixty9fasty wrote: | | saddlesore1 wrote: | Have you tested the shock mounts and the bump stops out on an existing Thing?
It make no sense that you can legnthen by 1.5" and have no residual effect on shocks.
1st of all the shocks would have to be longer. otherwise what is the purpose?
2nd. would there not be a bind or chaffing of the shock at the lower mount. The angle of the shock would be less straight up and down and more of a 45 degree angle.
3rd. The bump stop would not line up at all. The angle have changed as well as the resting location (Fully collapsed) of the lower to the upper. |
Unless my eyes deceive me. Did you look at the pics? He just lengthened the arm behind where the bump stop mounts... So the shock mount is in the stock location, and so is the bump stop... |
Exactly right The shock mount and bump stop are in the factory position, no need for modification. If you lift the car too much you may need a longer shock. I did go with longer shocks on my 74 becasue I had it lifted beyond the full extension of the shock, and never had any binding issues. |
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sixty9fasty Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| ZylaJr wrote: | | sixty9fasty wrote: | | saddlesore1 wrote: | Have you tested the shock mounts and the bump stops out on an existing Thing?
It make no sense that you can legnthen by 1.5" and have no residual effect on shocks.
1st of all the shocks would have to be longer. otherwise what is the purpose?
2nd. would there not be a bind or chaffing of the shock at the lower mount. The angle of the shock would be less straight up and down and more of a 45 degree angle.
3rd. The bump stop would not line up at all. The angle have changed as well as the resting location (Fully collapsed) of the lower to the upper. |
Unless my eyes deceive me. Did you look at the pics? He just lengthened the arm behind where the bump stop mounts... So the shock mount is in the stock location, and so is the bump stop... |
Exactly right The shock mount and bump stop are in the factory position, no need for modification. If you lift the car too much you may need a longer shock. I did go with longer shocks on my 74 becasue I had it lifted beyond the full extension of the shock, and never had any binding issues. |
Binding issues with the shocks, CV's, or trailing arms themselves? Running stock thing Axles/CV's?? _________________ My Oval Project
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ZylaJr Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| NO binding issues. Every once in a while I would get a CV click cornering under acceleration. |
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sixty9fasty Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| ZylaJr wrote: | | NO binding issues. Every once in a while I would get a CV click cornering under acceleration. |
Got a pic? _________________ My Oval Project
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nightriderr Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| BugZyla.com wrote: | | Outright is $350. I have to pay $50 per arm for cores. We can do beetle arms also and modify the shock mount to match the Thing mount, as well as add the extra braceing to the top of the bump stop bracket. |
This is exactly what I've been looking for for my Class 11 look project, especially since I want to use the stock shock mounts. Do you make any adjustments to camber when you extend the arms? Or do you leave them stock?  |
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Do you have to run longer axles with these? _________________ '61 rag top beetle, '73 type 181, '66 13 window deluxe |
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BugZyla.com Samba Member

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Alexios Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Does anybody have some pics of how these arms look mounted?
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