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 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:15 pm Post subject: SOPA, PIPA and thesamba.com |
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I'm not sure how many of you have been reading up on SOPA and PIPA but as a user of the internet you really should read up on what our elected officials are being bribed by the MPAA and RIAA into passing.
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_anti-SOPA_blackout
For now SOPA is shelved, but could be brought back up for vote at any time. PIPA is still up for vote.
This could easily impact sites like thesamba.com. If SOPA were to pass and any copyrighted image were to be posted then the domain name could be seized for copyright infringement. In 2010 ICE seized a blog's domain name for supposed copyright infringement (even though the mp3's were licensed to the domain by the copyright holder) and it took over a year for the rightful owner to get the domain name back. http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/12/08/2045228/feds-return-mistakenly-seized-domain
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dirtsandwich
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Glad to see your position Everett. Are you considering a blackout on the 18th... or maybe making all the ads anti-sopa ads? Just a thought.
This made me smile, but it points out why these bills are so terribly wrong.
As if the DMCA wasn't bad enough to begin with... now this.
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That makes me sad that I own those glasses...
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:41 am Post subject: |
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I contacted my congress-critters last week about this pending legislation - vote 'NO'!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:00 am Post subject: |
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A blackout might seem extreme, but this is definitely a fight worth supporting.
Everett,
Would you consider a landing page that encourages action?
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:18 am Post subject: |
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I was not doing a blackout, actually I hadn't heard about that until right now.
I could post something somewhere, ideas welcome...
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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SOPA has been shelved, but not PIPA. Protect IP Act is pretty much just as bad, even though SOPA has been stealing the spotlight.
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What do you think of this. Unobtrusive but gets the point across
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As I understand it SOPA has not been permanently shelved, it's been put on a back burner somewhere.
I was not aware of these issues (at the least I didn't pay attention)  Anyone know anything about anything parallel to this in Canada or will they just sneak it thru as they often do?
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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and this is the response I received from one of my congress-critters:
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Thank you for contacting me regarding S. 968, the Protect IP Act.
Intellectual property industries employ more than 19 million people, making it an integral part of our economy. Rogue websites dedicated to the sale and distribution of counterfeit goods and pirated content are a direct threat to these jobs and to entrepreneurs growing and building legitimate businesses online.
Businesses have lost $135 billion in revenue annually as a result of these rogue sites. Customers have also been harmed by these sites; for example, online pharmacies that don't adhere to U.S. regulations have been reported to cause a rapid increase in prescription drug abuse.
I am a cosponsor of the Protect IP Act which would cut off foreign websites dedicated to counterfeiting and piracy that steal American jobs, hurt the economy, and harm customers. It would allow the Justice Department to file a civil action against those who have registered or own a domain name linked to an infringing website. The bill does not allow the Justice Department to target domain names registered by a U.S. entity.
Innovation is a cornerstone of our nation's economic growth. Proper intellectual property protections and incentives ensure that inventors develop products that benefit consumers. Without such incentives for innovators, we risk falling behind places like China and India.
Again, thank you for contacting me. I look forward to continuing our conversation on Facebook (www.facebook.com/SenatorBlunt) and Twitter (www.twitter.com/RoyBlunt) about the important issues facing Missouri and the country. I also encourage you to visit my website (blunt.senate.gov) to learn more about where I stand on the issues and sign-up for my e-newsletter. |
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I'm not for it nor am I against it, as I don't know much about it BUT I do understand government positioning
"Businesses have lost $135 billion in revenue annually", they don't really want to say their concern is about missing tax revenue, perhaps 
Have an opinion but I'm going to skip voicing it, in defference to others 
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Congress-Critter wrote: | | ...to learn more about where I stand on the issues... |
There's nothing that gets my blood boiling more than these so-called representatives voting on issues based on their views/beliefs instead of how the majority of their constituents want them to vote! 
I understand copyright infringement and piracy and all that, but as a web site owner I think the U.S. government needs to go about this in a different manner, IMHO.
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Basically it means sites like this would be forced to disable all hyperlinks, shut down the gallery and move to a text only format.
This would be have to happen or the site opperators would be liable for whatever copyrighted crap you post or link to. People like Everett would be holding the bag for user stupidity
A simular law was passed here years ago involving crack houses. Druggie rents a place and uses it for ill repute (drugs, hoes, you name it)
Bust goes down at the rental and now the landlord gets assessed for the demolition of his property. Illogical, No?
Whole blocks have been leveled in my town due to overstepping laws like this. Do what you can to inform others.
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| chazz79 wrote: | | Basically it means sites like this would be forced to disable all hyperlinks, shut down the gallery and move to a text only format. |
Yep. Look, that violates PIPA and by it simply being in this post it puts this website and EV in a precarious position.
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| I know many have had run ins with VW over BS copyright issues. Ive had them myself. VW seems to believe that they have the copyright for a picture I personally take of my own bug... because they have the copyright to the bug "shape" , period. Just think what they could do to sites like this with that kind of legal power behind them? It sounds like eminent domain for the web. |
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Interesting... in theory one of my sites could be sent to text only because it supports the work of manufacturer, and if he decided that I couldn't use the photos of his (now) copyrighted stuff I'd have to oblige. Guess what - blank's "image violation" image is now on my front page with the appropriate links. Yep, this is all about the tax money, isn't it?
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| 90volts wrote: | | I know many have had run ins with VW over BS copyright issues. Ive had them myself. VW seems to believe that they have the copyright for a picture I personally take of my own bug... because they have the copyright to the bug "shape" , period. Just think what they could do to sites like this with that kind of legal power behind them? It sounds like eminent domain for the web. |
It's sort of strange to me, because sometimes it seems as though VW wishes the Type 1 never existed. They could have helped the hobby by continuing to offer quality OE parts and being involved in one of the greatest automotive icons in history. They could have had a bit more pride in their landmark vehicle, but instead they scrapped most of their surplus parts and don't want anyone else to make them either.
In the context of the topic, I understand people wanting to protect their interests, their hard work and their ingenuity, but it seems what this bill does is basically shut down the ability for people to have an online social life. Should other people not be able to even look at my car because they didn't purchase it? Maybe I won't be allowed to take it out in public anymore? I know it sounds ridiculous, but isn't that kinda the same thing?
By the way, I understand it is MUCH deeper than I just described, but it was just an example.
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| Paul Windisch wrote: | | 90volts wrote: | | I know many have had run ins with VW over BS copyright issues. Ive had them myself. VW seems to believe that they have the copyright for a picture I personally take of my own bug... because they have the copyright to the bug "shape" , period. Just think what they could do to sites like this with that kind of legal power behind them? It sounds like eminent domain for the web. |
It's sort of strange to me, because sometimes it seems as though VW wishes the Type 1 never existed. They could have helped the hobby by continuing to offer quality OE parts and being involved in one of the greatest automotive icons in history. They could have had a bit more pride in their landmark vehicle, but instead they scrapped most of their surplus parts and don't want anyone else to make them either.
In the context of the topic, I understand people wanting to protect their interests, their hard work and their ingenuity, but it seems what this bill does is basically shut down the ability for people to have an online social life. Should other people not be able to even look at my car because they didn't purchase it? Maybe I won't be allowed to take it out in public anymore? I know it sounds ridiculous, but isn't that kinda the same thing?
By the way, I understand it is MUCH deeper than I just described, but it was just an example. |
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