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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 65 with a 1600DP engine and im going to run a single solex 30pict1, what oil bath should i use to make sure i have clearance for the lid ?
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a 65 with a 1600DP engine and im going to run a single solex 30pict1, what oil bath should i use to make sure i have clearance for the lid ?


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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a search on that part# and found only information about eu 1300 and 1500 cars. Also i do not know if SP / DP makes a difference as to what you run. Avail is another concern i have not seen one on the classifieds on thesamba. Just wondering what would be best run on that setup.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SP or DP should not really matter unless you are going for full race performance, and then you would be running dual carbs and an early cabriolet engine lid with the louvers in it for more air to the engine.

Then since that air cleaner is 90% the same as a 1966 1300 air cleaner you could use one of those instead. Only difference is the 1966 small 25mm tube preheat tube and the later 50mm used on each.

After that you have three choices:

Block off the later 50mm preheat hole in rear tin and live without preheat and suffer with any icing that occurs.

Do the above and keep searching the classifieds for the later air cleaner. They do show up now and then.

Use 1967 only rear tin to use the 25mm preheat or come up with an adapter so you can connect up the 50 mm to 25mm tube.....
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the info, it is exactly what I needed !
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to help! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can anyone tell me what this top row of text says, especially the last word on the first line? I know it's German, I just want to know what words are there. Actually a picture o that right side would really help.

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It's already translated in the second line that says, "Under very dusty conditions, check daily and change oil if necessary."
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's already translated in the second line that says, "Under very dusty conditions, check daily and change oil if necessary."


I was looking for the german words not an english translation. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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shortride wrote:

It's already translated in the second line that says, "Under very dusty conditions, check daily and change oil if necessary."


I was looking for the german words not an english translation. Very Happy


My German is a little rusty but the only German word I can think of that means "conditions" is Bedingungen. It looks as thought the word is distorted. It looks like it has the same number of letters.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Beetle Air Cleaners - picture reference thread Reply with quote

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1961 ? PART #?
1962 round base and 2 clip domed top, left side snout with preheat flap, small preheat tube fedding from apron tin, rebreathing tube on snout not cleaner base PART #?
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I just bought one of these, and here are the part numbers:

KNECHT
LB 624/1
113 129 613 B
(VW)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, there seems to be a LOT of little details of minor variations in this other thread, which are not captured here in this picture thread:

"61 oil bath filter VW number"
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=389108

There's a few pictures (new and old) of the early '61 air cleaner in that thread as well. (I'll send Everett a PM.)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While we're on the subject of air cleaners.

I'm in the process of cleaning up the stock air cleaner on my '66 Sedan and was wondering what the correct finish is on the outside. Is it gloss, semi-gloss or Satin Black? I've already painted the top with a gloss Black and it looks a bit too shiny.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Semi gloss, and a lot blacker than what is in your image.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Semi gloss, and a lot blacker than what is in your image.


It's a lot Blacker than the picture shows. The camera flash made it look more like charcoal.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will also find that after time and polishing that satin black/semi gloss will get glossy.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I've these three Knecht mushrooms, one with extra maintenance text, the other two without... Any information about these?

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter_KG wrote:
Hi,

I've these three Knecht mushrooms, one with extra maintenance text, the other two without... Any information about these?

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I have a pair of the type with the 2500km service stamping, which indicates that it is for a car engine as opposed to an industrial one that will have a 50 hour service recommendation. The Mann filter varieties come stamped with either the 50hr or the 2500km stamped into the top like the logos. However the Knecht ones without the 2500km rating came with an orange label so it could be multipurposed by either keeping the sticker intact when fitted to an industrial engine, or peeling off the orange label for some other purpose, like on a Porsche etc. I will say though that most of the pre-A's that I see with mushroom filters, tend to have the VW stamped/2500km variety.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

56 VDUB wrote:
Peter_KG wrote:
Hi,

I've these three Knecht mushrooms, one with extra maintenance text, the other two without... Any information about these?

Thanks!

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I have a pair of the type with the 2500km service stamping, which indicates that it is for a car engine as opposed to an industrial one that will have a 50 hour service recommendation. The Mann filter varieties come stamped with either the 50hr or the 2500km stamped into the top like the logos. However the Knecht ones without the 2500km rating came with an orange label so it could be multipurposed by either keeping the sticker intact when fitted to an industrial engine, or peeling off the orange label for some other purpose, like on a Porsche etc. I will say though that most of the pre-A's that I see with mushroom filters, tend to have the VW stamped/2500km variety.



Ok, thanks! I know these Knechts (without any extra text) should be gey... But they should not have the (orange) sticker when mounted on a car engine to be correct then?
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Ok, thanks! I know these Knechts (without any extra text) should be gey... But they should not have the (orange) sticker when mounted on a car engine to be correct then?


Yeah, silver is the correct color usually, though I do see alot of Porsche ones (both with text and without sometimes) in L41 satin black, I don't know if that was a Knecht color or they were painted to match the tinware.

The orange labels I see usually mention a 50hr service interval (50 Betriebsstunden), so would be incorrect on a car, but is not a crime to have them if you like the look haha Very Happy
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56 VDUB wrote:
Peter_KG wrote:

Ok, thanks! I know these Knechts (without any extra text) should be gey... But they should not have the (orange) sticker when mounted on a car engine to be correct then?


Yeah, silver is the correct color usually, though I do see alot of Porsche ones (both with text and without sometimes) in L41 satin black, I don't know if that was a Knecht color or they were painted to match the tinware.

The orange labels I see usually mention a 50hr service interval (50 Betriebsstunden), so would be incorrect on a car, but is not a crime to have them if you like the look haha Very Happy


Ok. Never saw the orange mushroom sticker with the '2500km' text (only those for the oil bath ones)... But, do they exist and, if so, were they ever mounted on those Knechts then?
Actually I do like the stickers! Laughing


Much appreciated!

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