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Slimey Samba Member
Joined: August 13, 2011 Posts: 50
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:10 pm Post subject: High School 1961 Baja Bug Project |
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Im 15 years old and i have a 1961 baja bug that i need to rebuild so that when i get my license ill have a ride to school and back
right now , this VW isnt in the greatest condition, but i think its got potential. i have most of what i need to get this on the road, its just a matter of putting it all together, making it work, cleaning it up and making it comfortable to drive
Im going to be posting pictures of my project , and ill try to keep updating how my project is doing.
BUT, im only 15 and ill be needing constant advice , i know the basics of cars from helping my dad work on his cars (hes a rock crawler and has a FToy) so im not going into this completely blind
(i was advised to move this topic from the "Beetle - 1958-1967" to the offroad section)
so when i need help ill be asking questions on this thread, everyone's help is greatly appreciated
Thank you.
Here are some pics..
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Mal evolent Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2009 Posts: 2912 Location: San Antonio, Nuevo Mexico
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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(i was advised to move this topic from the "Beetle - 1958-1967" to the offroad section) |
in a calm and polite way, I'm sure
sell that engine to a restorer and get a 1600. _________________ 73 Beetle Baja, Ghia front brakes, Type 3 rear brakes, 2220 ( 94 X 80 ), Weber Progressive, Bosch SVDA, '97 Mustang seats
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dirtkeeper Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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looks like a great start |
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jeffsbugs Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2011 Posts: 293 Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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^^X2
A nice candidate for a baja. Keep the engine.
Jeff _________________ '73 Westfalia, rebuilt 1700, dual OG solex - 3500 miles and counting
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Slimey Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Mal evolent wrote: |
sell that engine to a restorer and get a 1600. |
im gonna keep that engine for now until i get the money to buy a new one _________________ (o\!/o) :2gunfire: |
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The Phil Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2011 Posts: 1371 Location: Tucson
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Mal evolent wrote: |
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(i was advised to move this topic from the "Beetle - 1958-1967" to the offroad section) |
in a calm and polite way, I'm sure
sell that engine to a restorer and get a 1600. |
X2. if that motor is in running condition, it could possibly afford a really nice 1600 longblock. _________________ "In case I don't see you, good afternoon , good evening, and goodnight."
My '66 Baja Build Page http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=456365
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Slimey Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:34 am Post subject: |
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X2. if that motor is in running condition, it could possibly afford a really nice 1600 longblock. |
its not exactly in the greatest condition
how much do you think i could sell it for? _________________ (o\!/o) :2gunfire: |
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Mal evolent Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:12 am Post subject: |
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1) there are a finite number of 40 HP engines
2) that finite number is shrinking
3) restorers need them
4) hot rodders can't use them
5) it will struggle to pull those tires
6) if you grenade it trying to pull those tires it is worth nothing
read and heed: http://www.aircooled.net/gnrlsite/resource/articles/t1hpeng.htm _________________ 73 Beetle Baja, Ghia front brakes, Type 3 rear brakes, 2220 ( 94 X 80 ), Weber Progressive, Bosch SVDA, '97 Mustang seats
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Slimey Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Mal evolent wrote: |
1) there are a finite number of 40 HP engines
2) that finite number is shrinking
3) restorers need them
4) hot rodders can't use them
5) it will struggle to pull those tires
6) if you grenade it trying to pull those tires it is worth nothing
read and heed: http://www.aircooled.net/gnrlsite/resource/articles/t1hpeng.htm |
so your saying that i should be able to sell the engine i have for as much as i can buy a 1600?
what kinda prices am i looking at for both engines?
the vin number on the engine i have right is F 1557944 _________________ (o\!/o) :2gunfire: |
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Mal evolent Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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I said nothing like that. I said it won't do you any good, and someone else is looking for a 40 horse _________________ 73 Beetle Baja, Ghia front brakes, Type 3 rear brakes, 2220 ( 94 X 80 ), Weber Progressive, Bosch SVDA, '97 Mustang seats
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The Phil Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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That depends on one of two big factors.
1. will you have someone build it for you?
2. If not, are you going to build it yourself?
IF you build it yourself, from brand new, without a case, you are looking to spend about $600 just for internal stuff (pistons, crank, rods, all of the engine bolts, bearings, cam.) that's if you build a cheap 1600. If you buy a new case, thats about another $6-700. And then you have everything else there is to complete the block. Alt, distributor, shroud, tins... in short, building it yourself it will cost a good amount.
If you have someone else build it for you, you can look at having a turnkey motor cost you about $2600 or so.
I recommend building the motor yourself not only because its cheaper but because you then learn everything about the motor itself. It's incredibly easy to build. It should only take about a week for a newbie to build a VW motor if you have all the parts ready. an experienced guy can do it in about two days. _________________ "In case I don't see you, good afternoon , good evening, and goodnight."
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68bugbaja Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2011 Posts: 107 Location: Missouri
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Slimey wrote:
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(i was advised to move this topic from the "Beetle - 1958-1967" to the offroad section) |
lol they don't like our kind.
Keep our first motor close to stock, no need to go big bore. lets get it rolling first before you make it fast. a 1600 will do you well. _________________ REMEMBER- Build a good engine from the the ground up and you will not need to add on extra junk to cover the mistakes.-John Muir
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Slimey Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Im going to keep this engine for now and see how it does, if it doesn't have enough power I'll look into building myself a new engine. But for now I'm just trying to get this thing in a working condition so I can drive it to school and back, I probably won't even take it offroad til I have the money for a new engine _________________ (o\!/o) :2gunfire:
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75smith Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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you rebuilding engine? do you want heat? if you don't want heat get some j-tubes, slightly less restictrive then the f****ed up heater boxes--can you even call them heater boxes? and if you do want heat then get some new boxes- about $130 per side new; although you can find them in the classifieds for about $40 each side.
a rebuild kit can cost about $700, do you have access to a local vw store/machine shop? |
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bossride Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2008 Posts: 204 Location: Top of Mississippi.
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like a great start, good luck, and do post pictures. If you have any questions, these guys will get them answered correctly...
I'd get it running with what you have and go from there.... _________________ '59 Beetle.
'66 Beetle.
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kbwakesk8 Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2005 Posts: 1499 Location: Hacienda Heights CA
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Being 15 i know money is probably tight
Just clean that motor up paint and run it
big tires you most likely smoke the clutch or break the trans
keep an eye out for some smaller rear tires 29" range
new driver small motor will keep you out of trouble.
First off just get the car to a point where its drive-able then upgrade from there.
I still remember what it was like at least for me at that age good luck.
PS. girls are more impressed with clean and shinny rather than how fast it is. |
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Slimey Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Summer break started a few weeks ago and this past weekend i started working on my baja!, i had to stop working because i got really busy with school and sports/activities. I'm hoping to have it running in a comfortable condition by mid august, because that's when i am planning on getting my permit! _________________ (o\!/o) :2gunfire: |
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olmer2 Samba Member
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Slimey Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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This week i've done a few things.....
I got the clutch all set up
while changing out the alternator for one that actually works, i painted the doghouse
i replaced the bushings, and clutch spring(im not sure what its called), and put the throw out bearing in
Tomorrow i have to put the trans mounts in, and put the axle boots on, its gonna be a long hard day.. _________________ (o\!/o) :2gunfire: |
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Slimey Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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This is the trans mount that i have, problem is, i have no idea how it goes on
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