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nikwho Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:19 pm Post subject: Four wires to ign. switch, which one is which? |
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I searched with no avail. I need to know, of the four wires running to the ign switch, which is Ign., Bat, Acc and starter?
Thanks!
nik c.
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nikwho Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| So, I am sure that all of the information that I need is in the wiring diagram listed above, I cant quite make sense of it. I have a new ignition switch and it has a Bat terminal, Ign. terminal, Acc terminal and a starter terminal. Can anyone offer me any electrical help? |
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nikwho Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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looks like the starter is the Red wire with a black stripe, Battery is the all Red wire, black with yellow Acc., brown also to Acc, and the all black wire the Ignition???? I'm kind of lost here. sorry!
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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It might take more than 3 minutes of studying the wiring diagram to figure it out. Big red wire from the battery via the starter solenoid and the light switch (shown on the schematic) goes to your Bat terminal. On the schematic, follow the small black wire from the coil to the fuse panel and then to the D ign/starter switch. That's for your Ign. terminal. And then there is the big red/black wire going to the starter solenoid that connects to your Starter terminal. It's all just like the schematic.
The difference is that a bus switch had no Accessory position. And you don't need to hook anything up to it on your new switch. However there are some items that are nice to have hooked up to the Acc terminal. But if you had difficulty reading the schematic and figuring out which wires go to where on your new switch then forget about wiring anything to the Acc. terminal.  _________________ The best thing that anyone can do for their Bay is get the Volkswagen of America Official Service Manual published by Robert Bentley. Without it the bus is pretty much doomed.
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nikwho Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Desertbusman wrote: | It might take more than 3 minutes of studying the wiring diagram to figure it out. Big red wire from the battery via the starter solenoid and the light switch (shown on the schematic) goes to your Bat terminal. On the schematic, follow the small black wire from the coil to the fuse panel and then to the D ign/starter switch. That's for your Ign. terminal. And then there is the big red/black wire going to the starter solenoid that connects to your Starter terminal. It's all just like the schematic.
The difference is that a bus switch had no Accessory position. And you don't need to hook anything up to it on your new switch. However there are some items that are nice to have hooked up to the Acc terminal. But if you had difficulty reading the schematic and figuring out which wires go to where on your new switch then forget about wiring anything to the Acc. terminal.  |
That seems pretty rude, but thanks for the help anyway! I am just trying to be thorough, but apparently I am not supposed to ask questions on this forum???? |
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nikwho Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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nikwho Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Can anyone help me out with what to do with the black wire with a yellow stripe and the brown wire?
I see the black/yellow wire runs up to the light switch and the brown wire runs to the door contact switch for the buzzer. If installing an aftermarket switch, I think I can just leave the brown wire DC'd, but what role does the black/yellow wire play in the headlights?
Thanks,
Nik
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kreemoweet Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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The black/yellow wire is for the VW load-reduction-on-start feature, i.e. it powers stuff that would normally be on the
Ignition (#15) circuit, but is temporarily shut off when cranking the starter. It needs to be connected to the Ign terminal also,
or otherwise connected to the Ignition circuit. _________________ '67 bug: seized by the authorities
'68 bug: seized by the authorities
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nikwho Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| kreemoweet wrote: | The black/yellow wire is for the VW load-reduction-on-start feature, i.e. it powers stuff that would normally be on the
Ignition (#15) circuit, but is temporarily shut off when cranking the starter. It needs to be connected to the Ign terminal also,
or otherwise connected to the Ignition circuit. |
Thank you VERY much for your help!
I'll just run the stereo, and dome lights to the Acc circuit.
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kreemoweet Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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The brown wire does not power the dome lights, its for the key-in-ignition-and-door-open warning buzzer. If you want that
feature, you'll be the very first and only one I've heard of. No harm in just leaving it disconnected. _________________ '67 bug: seized by the authorities
'68 bug: seized by the authorities
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nikwho Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok, I'll start by saying that I was sleep deprived when I was asking about this the other day. I swear that I am not as dumb as I sounded in my previous posts. haha. Sorry. brown will stay disconnected. just radio will be on acc switch. Now, with that said, I wired the switch as described above and when I turned the key on, the starter runs in the on position. the big red wire is run to the BAT. terminal, the red/black wire to Starter terminal and the black wire to IGN. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like it's wired correctly so the only logical answer is a bad switch, ever considered just using the real VW parts and avoiding all this? _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Wanted, 68-73 westy OG plaid curtains, singles OK. |
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