Another 65 Bug Project

offshores · Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:49 pm Post subject: Another 65 Bug Project

I got this about a month ago and have been slowly working on it. It's been a lot of fun so far and it's just simply cool to do. The car was lowered by way of removing springs and my first order of business was to get it back to stock and clean some things up a bit. The PO is the one who replaced the pans just before I acquired it.

Here's the car as I bought it. My idea is to turn it into a real clean, usable car again. Not show quality or anything, just nice, clean and simple. It's going to end up with the stock smoothies, white walls and I have some OG bumpers with over riders that will be going on as well.
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Before and after of the beam. It cleaned up nicely and now has the stock spring stacks to give it the stock height in front and no more tire rub.
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Took a break today and cleaned up my speedometer and added some new celluloid to fix the turn signal and oil light.
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offshores · Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject:

A few things popped up and I couldn't resist. Got a little gingerbread to top it off.
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mykidsbug · Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:16 pm Post subject:

Cool!! I will be checking it out, I have a 65 Im doing now also myself..

silvertonguedevil · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:46 am Post subject:

Cool project!
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HotRod06 · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:05 pm Post subject:

thats some nice looking work on that 65. I'm working on now myself
Where'd you get your pans from?
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offshores · Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:03 pm Post subject:

offshores · Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:13 pm Post subject:

Rebuilt the steering box and painted it.
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offshores · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:12 pm Post subject:

It's been a little while since I've worked on this Bug and just recently pulled it back into the garage. I decided to pull the body off as the PO replaced the pans and never sealed the seams or coated them properly. It was lowered in the front and after removing the body it dawned on me that it might have been lowered in the back too. I really couldn't tell so I posted on here and got setup in the right direction and started in on that. Here are some pics of what I've done so far. I did verify that it had been lowered in the rear when it all goes back together I'll set it back to stock.

Removing spring plates. Thanks VOLKSWAGNUT for answering all my question on this...

Knocking crud off

Front beam about to come off. I had previously cleaned and rebuilt this.

All set to lift the pan onto the dolly.

got the bottom pretty clean and flipped it back over and did that side too. No pic at the moment.

I want to weld a few spots, seal the seams and then I'll coat with POR 15.

RareAir · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:03 pm Post subject:

POR-15? Why? You've already gotten to this point, I'd suggest going the powder coating route for the pan
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Bugugly · Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:06 pm Post subject:

Looking good. Nice and clean..
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offshores · Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:11 pm Post subject:

F@%$ POR 15. Just got done applying it to my meticulously prepped pans and it formed bubbles all over the place Evil or Very Mad

. I called them and one of their peeps said that it cured too fast because of humidity in the air. No where on the can does it say anything about bubbles forming because of high humidity. In fact, their "Information Sheet" lists quicker drying times with higher humidity.
Here's a nice little quote from their "Application Information" PDF
"HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE POR-15 TO DRY?
That depends on the ambient humidity (surrounding area). The more
humid the area, the faster the drying time, which usually varies from 2 to
5 hours."
Again, no mention of bubbles. Their "Directions for people who don’t read directions" PDF doesn't mention it either. It wasn't until after I called that I heard of bubbles and then I found something buried on another one of their many PDF Info Sheets that mentioned it. Actually can't even find it now and I'm looking for it.
What a disappointment!

eagle5127 · Samba Member Joined: July 17, 2008 Posts: 620

Too bad you didn't do a small test area first..I would be pissed too !

offshores · Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:52 pm Post subject:

What would I be testing for? That's just it, there's no mention of testing for anything. Clean the area with their Marine Clean, use their Metal Prep and Ready and then brush on a coat, let dry to the touch and apply another coat.

drscope · Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:03 pm Post subject:

Did they give you any idea of what you need to do now to get a nice smooth looking surface?

Also, are you aware that POR15 requires a top coat to protect it from UV light? Just because its the bottom of the car, doesn't mean it isn't exposed to UV light. It may not get direct UV, but when parked it still gets reflected UV which is just as damaging to the POR15.

I like Rustoleum Rusty Metal Primer. I think it works better for a much longer period of time and its certainly a lot less expensive.
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offshores · Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:20 pm Post subject:

They said to scuff it down and then apply another coat. That's great and all, but we have rain (high humidity=more bubbles) in the forecast for the next 5 days. It's pretty lame that one stupid product could potentially hold up a project like that. I'm aware of the top coat that's required and the UV sensitivity of this garbage. I won't be using it again after this.

When I Google "Rustoleum Rusty Metal primer" I see spray cans mostly and I'm sure you're not referring to those. So, what's the skinny on that stuff?

panicman · Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:34 am Post subject:

You can get it in quart cans and brush it on. It is that funky reddish brown color. I actually used it on drscopes advice on my pan. The pan on my 60 looked great except for the lowest part of the pan pressing under the tar mats, and the battery area, which I cut out and patched. I wire wheeled and scuffed it until it was clean and smooth. The local Ace has the rusty metal primer in quart cans, so I asked them to put it on the shaker, then took it home and brushed 2 coats on the pan. It came out very smooth and appears to adhere well. I then used their gloss black in 2 heavy coats. It was humid here, and there was some bubbling, but during drying it settled out very smoothly. I am happy. I would not paint my car body with it.

The rustoleum gets much maligned, but people who have used it (like the dr) report that it really holds up. And if you read the lengthy rust prevention thread, they used the rmp, and it looked to hold up just as well as all the 'premier' brands.

If my pan turns to crap because I used rustoleum, I will write a strongly worded thread!
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offshores · Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:03 am Post subject:

Thanks panicman for the info. I actually PM'ed drscope and I got some good info back from him. In fact, I just went to HD and bought a qt of the RMP #7769 and a qt of their satin black for a top coat. What I have done since the bubble mess is 3 more coats of POR 15. Still getting bubbles between coats, but not as many and they knock down pretty easily between coats. Think I used 320 grit. I'll scuff em up and apply the satin over it and then start in on the other side using only the Rustoleum products.

offshores · Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:32 pm Post subject:

A little progress over the past 3 weeks, but the pans are finished for the most part. I ended up using Rustoleum products for the tops of the pans. 2 coats of the rusty metal primer and 2 coats of semi gloss black. So much easier than the POR 15 I used on the bottoms. I also made new rear heater cable tubes and tacked those on. The seat tracks needed some attention also. My seats wouldn't lock into place so I had to open those little prongs on the seat tracks a little with a grinder. Slowly but surely...

Helfen · Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:10 pm Post subject:

That looks great! While you have it all apart make sure and check all the tubes in the tunnel....now is the time to do it.
Also you said you added gingerbread...meaning the rack? With a name like offshores I would have thought you would have added some Bay Standards. I still have mine after forty five years, although these days I use the SUV to go to the beach. The beetles are too nice to get near salt mist.

Jon65 · Samba Member Joined: September 29, 2012 Posts: 2417

Man, that looks really nice. Great work.


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