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James Dwan
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 Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: What year was the last crank handle Bus? |
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I bought a '59 Deluxe and the rear apron has been modified to fit the "pea-shooter" exhaust. It also has a hole for the crank handle.
I have looked for months and even inquired about the length of a pressed bumper crank handle. All I have seen are pre-'58 crank handles. So am I looking for a crank handle that doesn't exist?
I am painting the bus soon and would like to make sure the apron is correct. Thanks!
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Riff Raff
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The crank handle was discontinued at the same time as the 36hp engine. May of 58 I believe. Therefore, all crank handles will be pressed bumper length.
If your bus is a 59, it will have over rider bumpers* (see caveat below) and there was never a crank start handle made for over rider bumpers.
It sounds like you have an earlier apron on your bus (or your bus is actually a 58 )
* Unless it is an August 58 bus and then it will have pressed bumpers but year is in limbo -or it is a Euro and has the new style bumpers, but sans over riders. In either case, it would not have come with a crank start apron.
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James Dwan
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks! I was getting disapointed with finding the crank handle 
I'm pretty sure it's a'59. The bumpers do have over riders. I'll verify the year via VIN/Vintage bus.com tonight.
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campingbox 
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I've had '59 busses with Crank handles before. They had a special longer version of the handle to clear the overriders. |
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thom
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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My February 1959 ambulance has crank start.
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crofty
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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'59 was the last year for that option
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James Dwan
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Damn, I guess I need to keep looking after all? 
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crofty
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| campingbox wrote: |
| I've had '59 busses with Crank handles before. They had a special longer version of the handle to clear the overriders. |
"clear the overriders" , damn does it take a couple guys to turn that beast? LOL
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diy570
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| crankstart til may of '59, right? |
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Riff Raff
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| '59 was the last year for that option |
Shucks, did I screw up the year again?
Was it May 59 that was the end of the 36 horse and crankstart?
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My 59 panel. I don`t have the crank but I think I`m just going to make one. After I start working on it someday. 
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James Dwan
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I think I'll pick up one of those pulley nuts with the hole for the crank, I saw one last week on the Samba. The handle shouldn't be too hard to make right? If I get a pre '58 as a go-by I can just have one made a bit longer I guess 
I don't know but I like the looks of the over riders - they are very VW - I have only owned bay windows before so they are "new" to me.
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Stocknazi
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i think someone posted the lenghth of the 59 handle before, try searching as i don't remember what thread it was in.
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James Dwan
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Everett!
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campingbox
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| Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:51 am Post subject: |
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This shows the difference between the two handles. |
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67typII
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: Crank start option |
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I know the thread is old, but I have an Aug 59 deluxe that I purchased. It was disassembled when purchased and it has a crank start rear apron (not on vehicle). Was this option available in August?
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| starting the restoration of my jan 15, 59 23 window. Which apron should I use ? Thanks Darwin |
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Mowser
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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My December '59 has a crank apron.
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