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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:35 am    Post subject: late model Bug gas tank same as late Ghia tank? Reply with quote

I know that the aftermarket tanks out there don't fit Ghias without a fight...they're supposed to fit late Bugs and Ghias. But, are the og. Bug tanks the same as the Ghias?? I'm in the market for a used og. tank from a buddy of mine and not sure what the differences are, if any. Can somebody fill me in?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are supposed to be the same, as the part number is a 113 part number, which indicates a standard Beetle (i.e., not a Super Beetle).

http://www.karmannghia.com/viewDetail.asp?strMasterCat=3919&idproduct=1142
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand that a '68 Ghia has a 1 year only gas tank. Your post only says "late" style, which in terms of a gas tank would be '69 and later. As far as the aftermarket tanks go, there is no difference between the ghia and standard beetle replacement you would be sold.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put a new Mexican tank in my 74 several years ago. Fit perfectly.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NWGhiaGuy wrote:
I understand that a '68 Ghia has a 1 year only gas tank. Your post only says "late" style, which in terms of a gas tank would be '69 and later. As far as the aftermarket tanks go, there is no difference between the ghia and standard beetle replacement you would be sold.

This would be for a '73 Ghia. I've heard that the aftermarket tanks out there don't fit 100%...something to do with the filler neck. But, I'm curious about an ORIGINAL Bug tank vs. the Ghia tank. I guess at this point my best bet would be to put them side by side and compare.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a '69 Ghia and a tank from a parted out '74 Beetle (not SB). As near as I can tell with the tanks sitting next to each other, they're the same.

The proof would truly be when I went to install it in my Ghia, but to the naked eye, there's no difference.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sslick wrote:
This would be for a '73 Ghia. I've heard that the aftermarket tanks out there don't fit 100%...something to do with the filler neck. But, I'm curious about an ORIGINAL Bug tank vs. the Ghia tank. I guess at this point my best bet would be to put them side by side and compare.

The tank is the same, the filler neck is ghia specific (note 141 prefix part number):

http://www.karmannghia.com/viewDetail.asp?strMasterCat=3927&idproduct=1150
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An original VW tank should fit fine.

The problem with the aftermarket tanks is, that most of the time, they do not fit the most narrow part of the Ghia trunk.

A Ghia Trunk space gets more narrow as you get closer to the nose of the car. The way the aftermarket tanks are stamped out and welded, the corners scrape the walls of a Ghia trunk as you install it. It will not sit flush unless you bend or cut the corners of the tank. This can lead to the tank leaking.

OEM tanks have these corners already cut.

The filler neck is Ghia specific but any OEM type 1 tank should work.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scottz wrote:
An original VW tank should fit fine.

The problem with the aftermarket tanks is, that most of the time, they do not fit the most narrow part of the Ghia trunk.

A Ghia Trunk space gets more narrow as you get closer to the nose of the car. The way the aftermarket tanks are stamped out and welded, the corners scrape the walls of a Ghia trunk as you install it. It will not sit flush unless you bend or cut the corners of the tank. This can lead to the tank leaking.

OEM tanks have these corners already cut.

The filler neck is Ghia specific but any OEM type 1 tank should work.


OK...forgive me here but, when you say "filler neck", you're referring to the part (seperate from the tank) that I stick the nozzle into when I fill up at the station....not the flange that's welded to the tank where the rubber hose attaches, right??? I'm not quite sure how to interpret what you folks are saying.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put a 68 bug tank into the 68 Ghia. Just had to reroute one hose. Picked up an old bus sending unit for five bucks. Worked out great.
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