4-Point Rear Seat Belt

giller · Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:14 pm Post subject: 4-Point Rear Seat Belt

I've read through quite a few of the seat belt threads but can't seem to find exactly what I'm looking for. My plan is to install a safer seat belt for the rear bench of my 72 Westy (driver side only), which will secure my 10-year-old.

It seems to me the easiest and best option is a 4-point belt because it only requires three anchors, none of which are on the side walls or require much fabrication - two of the anchors are already there for the existing lap belt. I would add a mounting plate to the middle lock nut.

Does this seem reasonable? What am I missing? Does anyone have some pictures of 4-point belts?

This is what I'm thinking:

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busdaddy · Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:29 pm Post subject:

Aside from having to remove the fuel tank to install it the theory seems adequate.
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drober23 · Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:51 pm Post subject:

Please post pictures of this here if you get it working to your satisfaction!
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webwalker · Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:45 pm Post subject:

I toyed with a full 4 point (lap and shoulder) where the shoulders wrapped over the top of the seatback and down to where they join the lap belt and bolted into the stock locations. 2 bolts, 4 points.
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nerd04 · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:11 pm Post subject:

Any progress on this? I need to put safer restraints in the rear of my bus, and this looks promising.
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RatCamper · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:15 pm Post subject:

honesty what you need are these:
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That's a picture from one of the sellers I tried to buy one off that didn't come through for me Evil or Very Mad

. they are OE VW.
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RatCamper · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject:

Those rivets were some kind of owner mod. They aren't there usually.
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manikmike · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:26 pm Post subject:

So just the one bolt and the ledge for stabilization?
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RatCamper · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:28 pm Post subject:

SGKent · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=262433&highlight=brake+mat
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RatCamper · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:42 pm Post subject:

manikmike · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:58 pm Post subject:

RatCamper · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:04 pm Post subject:

I tell you, if there was someone over there with the equipment to fabricate an equally strong or better facsimile I'd move heaven and earth to find one to send over as a template in return for a new pair.

no-one will do anything like reproduce and sell them here for legal and legislative reasons. kind of complex really. I don't think customs would give a hoot about them though and nobody would question them if I installed them. only issue is I lack that ledge. It was one of the big discouraging things for me. I figure I can either find a couple of those sections from a wrecked bay or make something fairly similar from thick box section, possibly a second anchor plate inside and a lot of welding, and just try to make it look stock enough that nobody would look twice at it. Regulations and all again, and scary amounts of associated money Crying or Very sad

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manikmike · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:10 pm Post subject:

RatCamper · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:24 pm Post subject:

RatCamper · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:25 pm Post subject:

...is that electrical tape? Why on earth is that there.
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manikmike · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:48 pm Post subject:

RatCamper · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:59 pm Post subject:

giller · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:04 pm Post subject:

Sorry folks, no progress on my part. Seems like those kinds of belts are really hard to come by where I am and I didn't want to fork out the cash (shipping, returning if they didn't work) if I wasn't certain it would work - that's why I was asking the question.

However, I did notice that the PO made a bolt hole in the metal behind the driver-side passenger seat - I think it's for a seat belt anchor. I'll try and take some pics this weekend - maybe a 3 point belt will go in (I still have the original front seat belts that I replaced).

RatCamper · Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:09 pm Post subject:

There's always a CRAB bar and harness.
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