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sqbackmadness420
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 Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:56 pm Post subject: 2275cc custom squareback baja HELP |
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I found this rediculously sweet deal on a custom squareback baja wagon with a freshly rebuilt 2275cc motor. I'm not the brightest when it comes to mechanical work but what is it gonna take me to keep this thing running smooth?
I really want this for a daily driver and more but im not sure if the engine (due to its nature, 2275cc) is ready for anything but a track? im not sure please let me know
another thing... how much gas is a 2275cc gonna rip through?
thanks
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| Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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10 to 1 it will fail as a daily driver.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Air_Cooled_Nut wrote: | | 10 to 1 it will fail as a daily driver. |
unless it was built by someone competent.
OP: who was the builder? do you have DOCUMENTATION on the engine size, parts used, etc? without that info its a mystery engine.
you wouldn't be the first to get told "you have a 2275 monster! from a porsche!" and then end up getting a 1.7 L shoehorned in from a barely running bay window. 
parts combinations matter at that size. ESPECIALLY if you want a daily driver. can it/has it been done? do people drive 2275's daily? yup. sure do. but if it runs well and they really drive it every day, then I HIGHLY doubt they spent anything less than 2500-3k, and that's if they built it themselves! QUALITY long blocks, that size, based on a t1/t3 case and using non-empi crap run for as much as 3500-4k. can they be found for less? yeah. I'm just saying -- if it sounds too good to be true, it probably IS.
just some VERY general things to look for in a well thought out 2275:
name brand cam, and the paper work or the owner will know it's "number" or other designation. Cam choice is basic basic basic and if the owner doesn't know, then I would immediately SUSPECT the builder put in whatever the hell he felt like. ( I assume the builder is bad, for conservatism sake)
counter-weighted crank, NOT EMPI. Shy away, (but don't necessarily RUN from) scat or bugpack cranks. CB performance, Berg, DRD, DPR, etc are QUALITY cranks.
non-chinese P/C, gaskets
NEW lifters (to match the cam)
HEAD WORK -- a real 2275 should have serious head work and the paper work should show it. same goes for machining to the case.
then theres the other stuff -- carbs and intake and exhaust. these things, IMO, can always be "fixed" if the underlying long block is strong and well built. Plenty of new guys scrimp or cut corners here. Even a knowledgeable, quality 2275 long block from a competent builder will run like caca if the builder, owner, or second owner decides to slap on crap parts -- or doesn't know how to properly tune good ones.
weber progressive? HACK JOB. RUN.
dual dells? good choice -- linkage and parts sourcing might be hard for the beginner.
dual "baby" webers? AKA ICT's? aka 34 ict's? personally: I HATE these carbs for a variety of reasons. as an observer: once dialed in, they run well, and when paired to a good distributor will work great for a stocker. HOWEVER on a 2275 they're too small. this would be a sign that either the motor isn't as big as they say, or they cheaped out and are hamstringing the motor, OR it was built by someone who didn't have a clue and the motor probably cant or won't run on anything bigger for daily driver use -- either because the motor was built stupidly (wild cam) or because they simply didn't know any better.
dual weber 40 and above -- these are the "right" size for the motor. However lots of people cheap out or get lazy and instead of getting PROPER manifolds shortened for the application, people hack out sections of the rear cargo floor.
stock carbs in there... just walk away. they don't have a clue or are straight lying to you about whats in that car.
if all else fails: drive it around. does it idle well? smoothly? does it accelerate smoothly? does it pull HARD? does it buck? backfire? pop? have a lumpy idle? look for those things.
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Air_Cooled_Nut
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| Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Good work jis  I might add that if it has stock heat exchangers, run! Or install an oil pre-cooler system like I did 
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D Bug N
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:23 am Post subject: Is this 2275 good for a daily driver? |
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2275cc
new mag case
9.25-1 cr
82mm cb super race crank
12lb flywheel
kep stage1 w/ copperhead disc
cb super race h beam rods 5.4 vw
94mm mahle
KROC 044 heads 42x37
engle 120
cb straight cut cam gears
gene berg 26mm oil pump (full flowed)
gene berg 1.5 oil sump
48 weber IDA's rebuilt by A.C.E.
S&S 1 5/8 custom header with heater boxes (the heat is better than any stock '67)
A-1 stainless muffler
oil cooler with fan on a switch
rancho prostreet trans 4:12 r&p with stock gearing |
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Sqrbckguy38
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so is that what the motor has? doesnt mean much to just list a whole f-ton of good parts with no explanation, imo.
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jimmynotch
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:29 pm Post subject: Re: Is this 2275 a good daily driver? |
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That ad is for a Type 1, not a baja squareback.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:12 am Post subject: Re: Is this 2275 good for a daily driver? |
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| D Bug N wrote: | 2275cc
new mag case
9.25-1 cr
82mm cb super race crank
12lb flywheel
kep stage1 w/ copperhead disc
cb super race h beam rods 5.4 vw
94mm mahle
KROC 044 heads 42x37
engle 120
cb straight cut cam gears
gene berg 26mm oil pump (full flowed)
gene berg 1.5 oil sump
48 weber IDA's rebuilt by A.C.E.
S&S 1 5/8 custom header with heater boxes (the heat is better than any stock '67)
A-1 stainless muffler
oil cooler with fan on a switch
rancho prostreet trans 4:12 r&p with stock gearing |
That should run fine as a driver. I'd make sure you have CHT, oil temp, and oil pressure at least to monitor but it sounds like a nice solid engine.
The 94 pistons will get bashed but with the extra oil cooler, larger exhaust and the full flow you should be good. |
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