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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:55 pm    Post subject: Typical crazy customer Reply with quote

I like to share stuff with you guys about customer VS shop owner.

I'll make that short:

A guy e-mail me sating he is ready to buy a van I have converted some year ago (33K$), he ask me if I can re- activate AC. I say yes if the rest of the AC component are in working order. If everything is there and nothing as been remove i can.

Never heard back from that guy.

2 days later the van owner call me in panic... BEN, CAN YOU MAKE MY AC WORK!!!! If not, the guy won't take the van... I gave a deposit on a new RV and I may loose my deposit if the guy doesn't take my van (you should also have taken a deposit). Sure I can but I need time to built the AC hoses.

Another e-mail: Ben HELP ME. Faster please.

To help you with what? Being stupid enough to give a big deposit on an expensive RV way before you get you money for your "not really sold" vanagon.

Childish behaviour, at 56 he should know better,

I have no pity for people like that. I'm stressed enough already that I should not have to cope/deal with other people stress that anyway I didn't create.

If you could read French I would post his e-mail here.

As a shop owner who does 10K$ job I take a deposit for every single job, NOT REFUNDABLE! It's called a DEPOSIT, why the heck would I ask for one If I had to give it back if you change your mind... THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I ASK A DEPOSIT.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Typical crazy customer Reply with quote

ftp2leta wrote:


Childish behaviour, at 56 he should know better,

I have no pity for people like that. I'm stressed enough already that I should not have to cope/deal with other people stress that anyway I didn't create.


Bravo Ben! I can't stand it when people try to make their problem yours because of their own foolishness.

Better get a deposit for those A/C hoses first Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Typical crazy customer Reply with quote

customer wrote:
I gave a deposit on a new RV and I may loose my deposit if the guy doesn't take my van.


"Dude, not my problem. I'll fix your van when the 3 others brought in ahead of you are done."

People and their entitlements... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Print this out on a big sign for your shop;

LACK OF PLANNING ON YOUR PART
DOES NOT CONSTITUTE
AN EMERGENCY ON MY PART.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Typical crazy customer Reply with quote

kamzcab86 wrote:
customer wrote:
I gave a deposit on a new RV and I may loose my deposit if the guy doesn't take my van.


"Dude, not my problem. I'll fix your van when the 3 others brought in ahead of you are done."

People and their entitlements... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syncroincity wrote:
Print this out on a big sign for your shop;

LACK OF PLANNING ON YOUR PART
DOES NOT CONSTITUTE
AN EMERGENCY ON MY PART.


Ha! I like that! Put it on the web site too.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I build AC hoses in my sleep, and offer them for free to all the Macy's Christmas elves with proper credentials. What kind of Scrooge McDee doesn't? sheesh
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Typical crazy customer Reply with quote

ftp2leta wrote:


... I gave a deposit on a new RV and I may loose my deposit if the guy doesn't take my van.....

..... Being stupid enough to give a big deposit on an expensive RV way before you get you money for your "not really sold" vanagon.


... I'm stressed enough already that I should not have to cope/deal with other people stress that anyway I didn't create.


Please comment.... I'm ready.



You want it ?
I'll give it.
My opinion that you wanted it to be a completed deal before it was.

What are you doing putting a big deposit on an expensive rv when you can lose that deposit because of a screwy customer?
Like you've never seen a screwball customer before....

Yeah, he's screwy, okay.

But you put yourself in there with him.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

33k and no ac?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Levi,
I think you misread Ben's comments. Ben isn't saying that he, himself put a deposit on an RV; he is saying the guy (in the email) who is trying to sell the VW put a deposit on an RV before his own VW was sold. Now the guy in the email is begging Ben to fix the A/C so he can complete the sale.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Typical crazy customer Reply with quote

levi wrote:
ftp2leta wrote:


... I gave a deposit on a new RV and I may loose my deposit if the guy doesn't take my van.....

..... Being stupid enough to give a big deposit on an expensive RV way before you get you money for your "not really sold" vanagon.


... I'm stressed enough already that I should not have to cope/deal with other people stress that anyway I didn't create.


Please comment.... I'm ready.



You want it ?
I'll give it.
My opinion that you wanted it to be a completed deal before it was.

What are you doing putting a big deposit on an expensive rv when you can lose that deposit because of a screwy customer?
Like you've never seen a screwball customer before....

Yeah, he's screwy, okay.

But you put yourself in there with him.


levi, if I'm reading Ben's post right, you are attributing Ben's customer's quote to Ben by mistake. It's not Ben who put a deposit on an RV, hoping his customer would come through, it's his customer who did put up the big deposit without selling his Vanagon first.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syncroincity wrote:
Print this out on a big sign for your shop;

LACK OF PLANNING ON YOUR PART
DOES NOT CONSTITUTE
AN EMERGENCY ON MY PART.


You get my vote for president. EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TRYING TO TELL!

Men I like Shakespeare language sometime.

Levi, you didn't get my post. it's ok, I'm French speaking and sometime I guess it can be confusing for English speaking folks.

Let my try again:

The mistake of one is not the mistake of everyone.
A decision should concern you and should not imply everyone else
You made a choice and only you is responsible.
Don't blame a bad decision on anyone else
You acted to fast because your a cry baby
You have no life and think that an object will make you feel stronger.
Your wife made you do it.
you need a new toy to be happy.
Yea, sell your GREAT van for a lazy big RV

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OPP

Let Mr. RV Buyer figure it out on his own.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thummmper wrote:
33k and no ac?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like you would be entitled to ask for an additional fee for "rush" work. FedEx charges more to get it there faster. Many shops here offer faster turnarounds for a fee. Time is money - ask me to conform my schedule to your suddenly accelerated schedule and that is an additional service not in the original deal we struck.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ftp2leta wrote:
Syncroincity wrote:
Print this out on a big sign for your shop;

LACK OF PLANNING ON YOUR PART
DOES NOT CONSTITUTE
AN EMERGENCY ON MY PART.


You get my vote for president. EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TRYING TO TELL!

Men I like Shakespeare language sometime.

Levi, you didn't get my post. it's ok, I'm French speaking and sometime I guess it can be confusing for English speaking folks.

Let my try again:

The mistake of one is not the mistake of everyone.
A decision should concern you and should not imply everyone else
You made a choice and only you is responsible.
Don't blame a bad decision on anyone else
You acted to fast because your a cry baby
You have no life and think that an object will make you feel stronger.
Your wife made you do it.
you need a new toy to be happy.
Yea, sell your GREAT van for a lazy big RV

Ben


Now THAT is the kind of french I understand.
As a previous small business owner several times over, I had to deal with plenty of adult-sized children.
I'm glad I misunderstood.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a simple matter at when providing fee based service that there will be times when customers ask for service above what we might perceive as acceptable.

We ALWAYS try to understand the position of the customer and make their wishes come true.

You are simply going to have to adjust to accommodate then, if possible, and fulfill their needs.

Nobody says it will be cheap, though.

I deal with this on a daily basis. Our fee does go up sometimes when the urgency drives it. If we can fit them in, fine. If not, and we have to reschedule things, then the impact is born by the customer. This is not a car business.

When we did have an actiive shop: Making AC lines is a simple matter. We have the crimper and parts. No big deal. Ditto metal lines. Have a cutter, bender and various end shaping tools. Just a matter for fitting them. (I see no compressor there either so that needs fitting, too.) It is going to take a good day to do this job, me thinks.

I would try to fit the customer in, but let them know right away it will not be cheap to drop everything and do the job. He should have thought ahead and at $33K had the AC made functional at the install time.

I do feel for both sides. If I really could not do it fast enough, I would refer them to a good AC shop. We all have other shops we send business to. Might be less stress to send it to a shop that does this as a specialty.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Typical crazy rant. Rolling Eyes Recommend another shop if you can't do the work. This person is your customer, they put food on your table.
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