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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:13 am    Post subject: Rear Torsion Bar Issue, Need Info Reply with quote

I looked in the classifieds on here and I didn't find any. there are so so many ads that I just can't look at every one of them. I realize they hardly ever go bad therefor they're probably hard to find somewhat. There should be a way to look for certain items only in the classifieds but I didn't see any.

I have a weak rusty one on the drivers rear of my buggy and I'd like to find a used pair in good equal shape to replace both of them rather than use either one.

Even though I have a swing axle I'm not sure what size the bars are yet, I'll know in several days or so when the mechanic has them out. Hopefully someone on here can point me somewhere to get some good used ones, hopefully not eBay.

If anyone has a ideas of something I could have done with mine like cleaning them up repainting them and using adjustable spring plates or something like that I'd appreciate some info.

Is it even possible to clean and repaint the rusty weaker bar and adjust it to make my buggy set evenly?

I'm not very knowledgeable about what can be done with torsion bars but I'm wanting to learn a little more for when I have to deal with the mechanic, the Beetle manuals I have don't say much about them.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1091834

A search would be nice in the classifieds, I go to google put in what i'm looking for, "vw swing axle torsion bars for sale the samba"
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The classifieds are totally search-able. Just put your cursor on the Classifieds icon at the top of this page and after the subtitles open, scroll down 5 lines and click on "search". Here is one for torsion bars

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php?...ton=Search

If you had a rusty torsion bar or any damage like scratches or gouges in the torsion bar, it will develop stress fractures and crack in a very short period of time. You also must keep torsion bars on the same side of the car for their entire life. You can't swap right for left or again they will quickly break.

Did you really mean to say you have a rusty torsion housing? If so your best option is to find a new chassis.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Each side's ride height can be adjusted independently by reindexing. Adjustable spring plates do make fine tuning much easier though.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies everyone, you can almost always count on other members on here for help. A friend called me this afternoon and said he has a set from a '66, if they're the same size as mine I'm all set. If not I have the info from this thread. Thankfully I didn't have to resort to eBay.

Thanks again everyone.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BL3Manx wrote:
The classifieds are totally search-able. Just put your cursor on the Classifieds icon at the top of this page and after the subtitles open, scroll down 5 lines and click on "search". Here is one for torsion bars

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php?...ton=Search

If you had a rusty torsion bar or any damage like scratches or gouges in the torsion bar, it will develop stress fractures and crack in a very short period of time. You also must keep torsion bars on the same side of the car for their entire life. You can't swap right for left or again they will quickly break.

Did you really mean to say you have a rusty torsion housing? If so your best option is to find a new chassis.


BL3Manx, thanks for the info they're the kind of things everyone with a buggy should know about torsion bars. Also I'll be able to search on the classifieds easier now. As I have health troubles there's many things that I can do anymore that I'd like to be able to but I still like to know how they are done.

This morning new items were being listed faster than I could scan the pages. I didn't realize the classified on here was so popular and busy. Without being able to search for a certain item a person could spend many hours on here.

As for the the torsion bar it's somewhat rusted and not quite as strong as the other but the housing is good according to the local VW mechanic who works on my buggy. He said there had been a slight leak at one time and it looks like the leak had been fixed but the torsion bar not fixed or replaced.

I got an exceptionally good deal ($400.00) on a running buggy with a perfect pan and excellent running 1600 DP so I figured I'd end up occasionally finding stuff that's rigged up here and there.

Thanks again for the info.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

73SpeedBuggy wrote:
Each side's ride height can be adjusted independently by reindexing. Adjustable spring plates do make fine tuning much easier though.



What's this reindexing? I've never heard of it before. I really like the idea of having some adjustable spring plates installed perhaps.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a table on here that tells you know what change in height (up or down) you will make by rotating the springs. I'm getting ready to do this in a week or so on our buggy, but have 3 or 4 other cars over the last couple years.

If your springs are damaged by rust do NOT use them - these things get an incredible workout and any additional stress in the metal is a bad thing.

Here's a couple links http://www.airheadparts.com/vw-rear-height-adjustment

http://vw.zenseeker.net/Wheels-TorsionBars.htm
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

56 manx wrote:
73SpeedBuggy wrote:
Each side's ride height can be adjusted independently by reindexing. Adjustable spring plates do make fine tuning much easier though.



What's this reindexing? I've never heard of it before. I really like the idea of having some adjustable spring plates installed perhaps.


The rear suspension is very adjustable using the inner and outer splines of the torsion bars. There are many threads and also articles covering how its done.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/search.php?search..._chars=200

http://www.meyersmanx.com/garage/garage_suspend.htm

The adjustable springplates make the job a bit simpler (after they're installed) but you need to fully understand the principles (and risks) before you do the job either way
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