New shop going up in Tallahassee-Idea

[Greezy Joe]

Have another post on here about a shop name and got great responses, Thanks to all.
After reading many post on here it is obvious that some people should not be working on things like brakes. I am not SLAMMING anybody as this is where this idea came from. I will be opening a part time VW only (Well Mostly) In Tallahassee and was thinking about doing a "Do It Yourself Service" there. For a fee, teaching and the customer would have use of tools and be supervised doing the job or assisting with the job. The brake thing really got me as I would hate to see anyone hurt because of inexperience and lack of the proper skills to do a job.
Disclaimler: Once again let me say, "I am not putting ANYONE DOWN. I think this could help the Hobby in a lot of ways, Safer and probably less expensive as I could keep some Folks from making expensive Mistakes.
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71 Ghia Vert/top in progress
07 GMC Truck
04 Chrysler Crossfire
73 Harley FLH 93 cid
89 Harley 883 Sportster (1200)


Owned before: 58, 69 Ghia Coupes, 64 Canvas Sunroof, 68, 72, 73, & 74 Bugs, 63 Single Cab, 65 Bus, 66 & 70 Camper
"You have to be smarter than what you're working on"

[coad]

That sounds like it would be fun for about the first week, and after that you'll grab the wrench and do it yourself because its faster than fixing their screw-ups and/or trying to explain it to them for the 14th time in an hour.

They'll also break, steal and generally abuse your tools.

What happens when the person drops an engine on their foot and sues you?

[66ratrod]

That would be awesome, im in Tallahassee and i have noticed that there are no good VW shops (that don't overcharge you like Furrin and Der Meister). So I think it would be a good idea to have one, but have someone supervise the do it yourself section and make everyone sign a liability waiver. Also, it would be cool to let people store their VWs there while they restore them (with a storage fee), I just bought a new (sort of) 65' panel that needs restoration, but I don't have room in my dad's garage. So a do it yourself VW shop would be awesome. If you do open one, im in the area and you can message me if you want help setting up the shop
We need a good VW shop in Tallahassee
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[Greezy Joe]

[66ratrod]

Ok to be fair to Furrin, their prices are reasonable. But a do it yourself/mechanic shop would be better.

Thanks for your service in Afghanistan
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1957 Plymouth Belvedere

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[gt1953]

I like the idea and the market are the ones that live in apartment complexes whom have knowledge and no area to work in. Or for those whom want to learn the how to's on the basic items, brakes, clutch adjustment, valve adjustment tune up. etc. I would say go for it.
Oh ya a tool inventory before and after would be needed.
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[lemke]

[djkeev]

How are you going to make any money? The rent, heat / ac, electric for lights and hoists, various chemicals and gases, tire machine, etc etc etc will all add up to a surprisingly LARGE number $$$$

There are already places in existence that people can go to and learn about auto repair, a trade school or a night school in your county somewhere.

I don't see a rosy future in this idea but....... what do Iknow??
There are so few air cooled VW's around anymore and a vast number of them are maintained by the owners themselves already. The market is currently small.......and SHRINKIng

There aren't anymore acvw's being made and a huge number disappear off the face of the earth every year!

Best of luck to you but color me pessimistic!!

Dave
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=392473

And the newest arrival!....... 86 Vanagon Westy!
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6315537#6315537

[Greezy Joe]

Thanks for the replies so far, even the Pessimistic guy.
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Current:74 Ghia Coupe w/ 2276
71 Ghia Vert/top in progress
07 GMC Truck
04 Chrysler Crossfire
73 Harley FLH 93 cid
89 Harley 883 Sportster (1200)


Owned before: 58, 69 Ghia Coupes, 64 Canvas Sunroof, 68, 72, 73, & 74 Bugs, 63 Single Cab, 65 Bus, 66 & 70 Camper
"You have to be smarter than what you're working on"

[drscope]

"the liability part has been considered and a waiver would be in order."


You better talk to a GOOD business attorny and a GOOD business insurance man first!

Your waiver will probably not even be good to wipe your ass with if you accept ANY money or payment at all.

YOU are supposed to be the expert and that is what you charge for. One screw up by the wrong person and you could be toast!

If there is one thing I have learned in business, it's as soon as it looks like you have 2 cents in your pocket to rub together, there are 200 people trying to steal it from you.

Let me share a lesson that took me several hundred thousand dollars to learn....PROTECT YOURSELF FROM OTHER PEOPLE.
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[tom62]

Have you seen this?
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2010/06/22/if-it-werent-for-insurance/?refer=news
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Yep I'm from Florida! and have you noticed most of the idiots used to live in other states?

I don't think of it as a hobby, I Just like the ride.

[Greezy Joe]

[Mike Fisher]

A LOT of guys (myself included) would jump at a Shop/Mechanic Rental to help them work on their own cars and avoid the expensive guessing! I'd gladly sign a Liability Waiver. Don't let these Lawyers/Insurance Agents/Nervous Nellies stop you!
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[Kalen1970]

I'd kill for a good machinist/shop familiar with aircooled VW's in Tally. Did this idea go through?
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[2true]

I havent heard if he is back from the Sand Box. He used to run bob's VW back in the day. Joe is a great guy!

[Cusser]

[mark tucker]

kinda like trying to help the guys in the vw club,but they know it all,cant do squat right,dont want to do it right,have no clue what they have or why,other than to be kool.and when they eff up thier buddys car the excuses start flying"man that was a time bomb, gladd it blew up hear" I have never seen somany just about totaly useless beer drinken guys any where, not eve in a bar. good luck joe your going to need it. but I must say I do like the guys there amusing as hell to listen to &watch.but skeery as hell.

[Kalen1970]

For those of you in the tallahassee area. There is a new VW/Porshe shop on Raymond Diehl RD past outback.

I talked with the owner one evening. He had an Aircooled porshe and a 68-71 Beetle in his garage that he was working on. He stressed that it was bone stock and it was a restore job. But he was pleasent enough.
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[Greezy Joe]

To the Tally folks, I am back from the Sand Box they call Afghan..I am over in Fort Walton Beach right now working with the Army.I have been talking with a guy about doing this out of his Big shop in Tally( South Side} near the Truck Route. Meanwhile I am building a 71 Ghia Vert for the wife and a 2276 for my Coupe at the house. I am home every week end and would be happy to help some folks out at the house. This would help get me back into the scene. I don't know how much longer this Army Gig is going to last.
And 2True, Dude Man, thanks for the kudoes and I still have that set of Baby Dellartos if you still want them.
If anyone wants to get with me just PM me
This is not a Commercial
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Current:74 Ghia Coupe w/ 2276
71 Ghia Vert/top in progress
07 GMC Truck
04 Chrysler Crossfire
73 Harley FLH 93 cid
89 Harley 883 Sportster (1200)


Owned before: 58, 69 Ghia Coupes, 64 Canvas Sunroof, 68, 72, 73, & 74 Bugs, 63 Single Cab, 65 Bus, 66 & 70 Camper
"You have to be smarter than what you're working on"

[Greezy Joe]

Hey I'm back and retired now working out at the house and at a friends shop, got the 2276 done and running in the 74 Ghia...WOW... The Vert is coming along. Give me a shout if some of you guys want to get together.
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Current:74 Ghia Coupe w/ 2276
71 Ghia Vert/top in progress
07 GMC Truck
04 Chrysler Crossfire
73 Harley FLH 93 cid
89 Harley 883 Sportster (1200)


Owned before: 58, 69 Ghia Coupes, 64 Canvas Sunroof, 68, 72, 73, & 74 Bugs, 63 Single Cab, 65 Bus, 66 & 70 Camper
"You have to be smarter than what you're working on"