Opinion: 356 Registry closing their forum & classifieds

356JAEGER · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 2:55 pm Post subject:

I suspect 'tallman' is George Bryan, one of the registry trustees and member of the Tea56 Party, that wants total control of the Registry. They are an angry, lonely, species who have sealed their own end and only deserve your pity.

tallman206 · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:09 pm Post subject:

Ha, I love the way children start throwing sticks and stones when they get their feelings hurt - even if it has nothing to do with them at all.

I am not George Bryan, and I am changing my Samba profile to reveal my identity, unlike others that hide behind their anonymous avatars and usernames so they can pitch rocks from behind them.
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Jerry Henning
Southern Classic Works
St.Petersburg, Florida
1973 VW Type 181 with 616/33-6 powerplant
1962 356B-T6 Cabriolet Rustbucket

356JAEGER · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:11 pm Post subject:

Glenn · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:12 pm Post subject:

Unobtanium-inc · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:24 pm Post subject:

Jerry-
I don't really understand why you are on the Samba poking at these guys, it is kind of like getting into the club and then pouring champagne out the window on the guys outside. Right or wrong, that is an endless debate, many of these guys do not have anywhere to talk 356 or gets these things off their chest.
Also, things are finally getting civil again, can we all work to keep it that way, rather than calling names and the like.

Steve Heinrichs · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:27 pm Post subject:

Joel and Glenn,

Excellent responses. Yep, as the quantity of folks here continues to grow, the old issues will fade, even though if the actual exchanges came out, many would be quite disturbed. I hope that the Registry can get back on track with solid leadership. Both it and Samba can easily co-exist but, for now, feelings are appropriately quite sensitive on the part ofthose who have largely shoved out.

Steve Heinrichs

tallman206 · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:39 pm Post subject:

Glenn, you know I am not talking about you.
You and Barry are well known and have a very prominent profile revealing exactly who you are, and everyone knows you anyway.

My comments were for other rock throwers and ankle biters.

Glenn and Barry, I respect you both for what you have contributed in the past, both to the Registry and to the Samba. It is indeed a thankless, stressful job to be a moderator of all these users of the forum, and you performed it well - - - up to a point. From watching the activity over there for the last couple of weeks (I was watching for a good long time and could see this coming), I feel that when your personal views on Registry free access came in conflict with the job you were doing as a Moderator, you appear to have taken the stance of letting your Moderator duties get shoved to the side while you grandstanded your personal opinions. Personal commentary and opinion are fine, but you probably pushed it too far and didn't get back to the business at hand - being a Forum Moderator. Regardless if it is an unpaid volunteer position as a moderator or not, if you can't go back to objectively doing the job you had volunteered for, then it was time to part ways. Taking an opposing stand in the public forum against the very group that you worked for cannot have been taken well, and it obviously wasn't.

Sorry it didn't work out for you, but I hope you can find your peace. Adam w seems to have taken an admirable position with his experiences, and kept the door open. I too have served as a membership chair and as a club-appointed director for our local 356 club, and got sideways with a past club president. I got my feelings hurt as well, and departed in a huff, but I don't blame the club, just the then current managment and his views that I differed with. Stuff Happens, life is too short, lets just chill and work on the technical stuff, which is what both of these forums are supposed to be about anyway.\

(edit) and Adam, I not over trying to pick at sore wounds. However I saw that misinformation was being spread, and felt (IMHO) that the misinformation was not warranted and should be corrected.

(Back under my 181 I go again - gotta change that CV joint!)
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Jerry Henning
Southern Classic Works
St.Petersburg, Florida
1973 VW Type 181 with 616/33-6 powerplant
1962 356B-T6 Cabriolet Rustbucket

356JAEGER · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:53 pm Post subject:

Glenn · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:09 pm Post subject:

EverettB · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:28 pm Post subject:

EverettB · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:30 pm Post subject:

Barry Brisco · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:31 pm Post subject:

Glenn · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:53 pm Post subject:

LHG · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:00 pm Post subject:

I think by now everyone knows where everyone stands. It seems to me this topic is just about tapped out.

My objective now is to make the 356 Forum here on TheSamba successful. I've invited quite a few non Registry members who were participating in 356Talk over here to add to our conversations. I think from here it will just keep building.
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Brian O'Kelly
www.centralcoastvwclub.com
Central Coast Chapter, CA - Vintage Volkswagen Club of America

Wiggy · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:19 pm Post subject:

Wiggy · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:29 pm Post subject:

Jerry - who are you talking about? I think it's quite clear who everybody is. Nobody is spewing misinformation that I am aware of. The only misinformation I am aware of is in their forum as they choose to sensor anything that may even slightly interfere with their elitist agenda.
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Kevin "Wiggy"

What everybody should know about the 356 Registry as it currently stands:

http://porsche356registry.org/356talk/15/29961.html

My 1957 356

My 1958 Ghia Vert

My 1951 Split 11G

Steve Heinrichs · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:24 pm Post subject:

At the risk of someone asking why I am not looking up chassis information----the notion that these former moderators were "grandstanding" is really wrong. To their credit, they kept their mouths shut for a long period of time. Then, finally, Barry very respectfully authored a post of facts regarding the then main issue. He was publically criticized for having the audacity to have an opinion.

Later, he and Glenn and Brian sent a private letter, which I have read, which was very respectful and articulated important points of view. Again, it was private.

They were summarily fired.
That is a fact.

Meanwhile, as a partof those private exhanges, I said that that was bad. For that I was called a jerk by one of the Trustees.

The plain truth is that the current set of leaders are not willing to hear any constructive criticism.

The Registry is a great organization and it has added immensly to the 356 hobby. But, at the moment, people are scared to death---regular guys and vendors alike. Say anything negative and you run the risk of being banned.....as, frankly, I do tonight as they monitor all of this.

The solution remains new leadership.

Watch carefully as they may ban me. I am not kidding, vendors are there and are silent only because they fear being banned. It is not a good time.

Anyway, I am off to Stuttgart and the Museum and more a week from today. Among other things I will be discussing the attributes of the Clubs.

Ciao to all,

Steve Heinrichs

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