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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
varagon wrote:
I'm still new only having my car a year, but what does a "narrowed" front end give you on the Ghia?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
got the narrowed beam installed.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
got the heavy duty sway bars today and put them on the car.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
scotty timmerman wrote:
CiderGuy i had to narrow the beam because the wheels were already rubbing the lip of the fenders and drop spindles will push the wheels out another 1/4 inch. so i dont think it will have too much of a narrowed beam look. i also dont like the look of the wheels being deep in the fender wells.

varagon the reason for a narrowed beam is so wider wheels can be put on and so the car can be lowered and not have the wheel rub the inner or outer fender.


Lookin' good, Scotty!

Also depends on the wheel width & offset: these are 17x7.5 with ET52 wrapped with 205/50-17 rubber on a stock beam. Drop spindles photo will come next...

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
thanks didget69. hoping it will handle a lot better then it

got a transmission mid mount.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well Scotty, whats the verdict? How does it drive? ...feel?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
car craft sent me the wrong drop spindles. i ordered them with the swaybars on the 8th and received them on the 14th. then sent the spindles back and it looks like they got them on the 21st. i emailed them today so if i dont hear back im going to call them tomorrow. if they had sent me the right ones the car would be on the road by now but it is kind of hard to drive with no front wheels Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bummer, waiting is so frustrating. Let us know when you get it all back together.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nice work Scotty, those sway bars should make a huge difference to handling, would be interested to hear how they go
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
finally got the drop spindles today. drilled and taped 3 holes in each so i could put the backing plates on them. should be able to drive it tomorrow and see how it handles.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
scotty timmerman wrote:
thanks didget69. hoping it will handle a lot better then it

got a transmission mid mount.

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Only change I'd make on your car is to use heavy-duty black VW factory style transmission mounts instead of the red urethane mounts.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
where did you get that tranny mid mount?
how is it attached to the frame horns?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
drove it today. the drop spindles made a huge difference in how it rode. it is now smooth instead of bumpy. the sway bars helped a lot in cornering. the car now stays planted when accelerating around a corner from a stop. the only problem is is that my front sway bar is scraping when stopping hard and on bigger dips in the road. im going to see if i can do anything to make it not scrape. i like how the 2 in narrowed beam turned out. the wheels arnt tucked really far in to the wheel wells, its just enough that the tires clear the fender lip and doesn't rub. over all im really happy how everything turned out.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
djway3474 i got it off amazon because i had a gift card but some of the vw websites have them. just google search "vw transmission mid mount". the red urethane just sits against the frame horns and it attaches to the transmission.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
This really reminds me of my self. I am 16, in high school. and I have a lowered 1971 signal orange ghia Smile . Nice work. Looks good

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very nice, that stance looks excellent! Congrats on improving the look and the ride!!
Also, how tight was the fit?
I have a 3 inch narrowed beam and just got a 3/4 inch swaybar for 2 inch narrowed beam. Think i can get it to fit?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
c21darrel it fits pretty well on the 2in narrowed beam. i think it will be a tight squeeze on a 3in narrowed beam. the bushings will probably be angled outwards but i think it could work.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks Scotty Very Happy
Im gonna mock it up with zip ties and see where it sits. Worse case it ends up in the classifieds Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
u can narrow it. i think i have seen it done and discussed some where on here before.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you can find a link....I have read that re-welding ruins the integrity of the bar.
Lucky I only paid $20 for it and $10 for the clamp kit. I also picked up an old EMPI clamp kit with EMPI stamped in each clamp.
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