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dawerks Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject: Starting engine first time, how do I elegantly feed it gas? |
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I usually wind up jury rigging some type of can and getting gas everywhere. What is a really good and elegant, clean, way to feed gasoline to an engine I'm trying to start?
The engine is in the bug but I don't want to run gas from the unknown gas tank. _________________ "There is only one sin; disconnection from self." |
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runamoc Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:19 am Post subject: |
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drscope Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 15273 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:22 am Post subject: |
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Fist get your fire supression gear in place. You don't want to loose a new engine, car and garage.
Next you can rig all sorts of gas cans to feed the fuel line before the pump.
Heck just run a long hose from the inlet side of the pump and stick the other in your gas can. It'll feed.
But before you hook all that up, pull the plugs out and wind the engine over a little to get some oil up to all those vital rotating parts.
Then put the plugs back in, hook up your fuel line and start cranking.
You can pour a LITTLE fuel straight down the carb, or give it a squirt of starting fluid. This will help things along until the fuel gets pumped through the line, pump and fills the fuel bowl.
Just remember, often times when doing this you can get a FLAMMING back fire out the carb! So don't be standing there with a cup full of gas next to the carb as you are trying to wind it over!
I prefer to use starting fluid for a first time fire up. It's a little safer as it stays in the can until you push the nozzle. And one of the most difficult things about a new start up is not knowing if you have enough or too much fuel.
It may not fire because it isn't getting enough fuel, or it may not fire because you have flooded it. Starting fluid will light off when you have a very small amount and it will usually light off if things are flooded and the plugs are wet. _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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sharkskinman Lateral Lunatic
Joined: April 26, 2006 Posts: 4030 Location: Deep In My Own Psyche
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:15 am Post subject: |
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i have a bottle like this
It contains 100 octane and some 2 cycle oil
i usually either put end In hose before fuel pump or Right before carb
squeeze for a little bit of pressure and Vwallaaaa _________________ 74 Mexi Swamp Thing. 70 square volksrod (Swamp Rat)..65 C10
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cory464 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:46 am Post subject: |
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i use carb cleaner over the starting fluid, same concept, but a little less aggressive. plus i usually have it around. as doc said, if everything is set up right, it will fire on the spray. if it doesn't fire you know there is a problem, and you didn't spend ten minutes cranking it over wondering what is wrong. |
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Helfen Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Starting a engine for the first time, or starting a engine in which the carburetor is dry:
Disconnect coil wire, crank engine until oil pressure comes up and connect coil wire and crank until engine tries to catch ( now you know you have fuel ) now for the first time touch the carburetor(s) by letting the accelerator work by giving it three good squirts. Use the throttle plate as your choke. After it starts on a fresh engine bring it up to 2,000 for twenty minutes.
On a engine that is run, say once a month and the carburetor is dry the procedure is the same except the 2,000 rpm bit. There are a few reasons for this procedure; One is oil pressure first before anything else, Two accelerator pumps wear out extremely fast if there is no fuel in them. This is especially true of the piston type pumps, but diaphragm pumps will crack too.
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dawerks Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:18 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for the suggestions and excellent posts!
'You can't have a day of working on Volkswagens without getting gas all over yourself' - my buddy Eric's quote. _________________ "There is only one sin; disconnection from self." |
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