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ashman40 Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2007 Posts: 15985 Location: North Florida, USA
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Eric&Barb wrote: |
Just wire into the brake wire junction in left rear engine compartment where all the wires connect from the taillights to the wiring up front. |
If you go with an interior 3rd light, run your wire down to the VR area under the left rear seat. The main harness that runs from the front to the rear passes through this area on the way to the rear. If you can find the black/red wire that runs from the brake switches you can tap into it with a splice and you are good to go. If you are unsure, use your test lamp (the one with the needle sharp tip). Ground the loose end of the test lamp and poke into the black/red wire while you step on the brakes (with key in ON position). If you have the correct wire the test lamp will light up! _________________ AshMan40
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'67 Beetle #1 {project car that never made it to the road }
'75 Beetle 1200LS (RHD Japan model) {junked due to frame rot}
'67 Beetle #2 {2019 project car - Wish me luck!} |
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mondshine Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2006 Posts: 2769 Location: The World's Motor Capital
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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I use the Model 38 Hella center brake light which can be purchased from Daniel Stern Lighting;
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/products/products.html
I believe Daniel Stern is the only source for this item in the US.
Manufactured by Hella in New Zealand, it is a very nice quality piece; much nicer than the usual Chi-Com stuff. I made the electrical connection behind the driver's side trim panel in the back seat.
Also located there is the WebElectric BLP-1 Universal Brake Light Pulser Module. The BLP-1 pulser module connects to the center high mount brake light and automatically pulses it when you apply your brakes. The light will pulsate on and off for about a second, then stay on steady for as long as you press the brake pedal. The unit is designed to create a gentle fluttering of light, so your car is more noticeable, yet it doesn't aggravate the driver behind you. The "Delay-Repeat" circuit means the brake lights have to be off for at least 15 seconds before the cycle can be restarted. So, if you are in bumper-to-bumper traffic, the brake light isn't always pulsing.
Good luck, Mondshine |
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JerryMCarter1 Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 6199 Location: N.W. Phoenix
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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there is also a product that will allow the third brake light to triple flash each time you step on the brakes -- $20.00 on the net _________________ Experience always triumphs over hearsay and You get to select which theory to believe |
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Willhelm Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2011 Posts: 818 Location: NY
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, some great info here! I picked up a pair of 12" red LED strips to mess around with. I really like that Hella unit. If it had been on display I would have grabbed that! |
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Willhelm Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2011 Posts: 818 Location: NY
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 8:37 am Post subject: |
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So here is the project in it's entirety. The pics pretty much tell the story. If you only have something crappy to say, please save it and just post your own superior work. I worked to the best of my abilities and it does what it is required to do. LED strips from Auto Zoned, the bracket was made from free discarded steel banding. I picked up the power next to the voltage regulator as mentioned by Ashman. Thank you everybody for the advice and recommendations.
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JerryMCarter1 Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 6199 Location: N.W. Phoenix
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Man ----you knocked it completely out of the PARK ! ! ! !
Wow
love it - I need to get started on one for my vert ! _________________ Experience always triumphs over hearsay and You get to select which theory to believe |
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Nepenthe88 Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2010 Posts: 1320 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Willhelm wrote: |
If you only have something crappy to say, please save it and just post your own superior work. I worked to the best of my abilities and it does what it is required to do. |
WOW!! I don't know why anyone would have anything bad to say about that, it's gorgeous, and kicks the ass of MY craptastic 3rd. Nice thought process on the gusset by the way. I prob woulda left it out, got pissed when the bloody thing flopped all around like a bobble-doll like and ripped it out _________________ a Black & Blue Su-BUS-aroo
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CarlIseminger Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2008 Posts: 833 Location: Grand Forks, ND
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone have examples of a third brake light on a 'vert? I can see putting the Hella version in the window, so when the top is up you have the light, but what about when we drive with the top down?
Oh, and by the way, great work Willhelm. Using your head and spare parts to create something wonderful like that. |
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JerryMCarter1 Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 6199 Location: N.W. Phoenix
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Here we all thought you were some sort of a nerd !
_________________ Experience always triumphs over hearsay and You get to select which theory to believe |
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PaRacer Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2010 Posts: 149 Location: Pa
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Here's mine - Trucklite led mounted inside. You don't even see it until you step on the brakes.
_________________ '73 Standard "Sunshine" |
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Willhelm Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2011 Posts: 818 Location: NY
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Thanks all. If nothing else let it inspire. I'm happy the thread grew into something so useful. The contributors here posted some really good information about options and wiring. Hopefully it comes up for people doing a search, I know all my questions where answered. Thanks again for the help and kind words. |
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68IHscout Samba Member
Joined: March 10, 2010 Posts: 3122 Location: santa ana ca
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Willhelm wrote: |
Thanks all. If nothing else let it inspire. I'm happy the thread grew into something so useful. The contributors here posted some really good information about options and wiring. Hopefully it comes up for people doing a search, I know all my questions where answered. Thanks again for the help and kind words. |
hey take it easy we are not done with you here ,..I have to get in my two cents worth ,...that is some very creative well done work , and it looks great , one question , on the pic inside looks like there is glare on the glass from the light if so what you doing to direct the light just straight back ... |
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Redvolk65 Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2010 Posts: 290 Location: Los Angeles,CA
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:40 am Post subject: |
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here is mine not bad for $5.00 dollars
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Willhelm Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2011 Posts: 818 Location: NY
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Ha! I thought I was getting off too easy. Yes there is some glare on the rear window. It really does not trouble me, in fact it tells me the brake lamps are working which is good to know and I wondered about sometimes. I'm not really a frequent night time driver so for me I won't have to worry too much. Crossover and SUV headlights are my pet peeve. If I can put up with that in my rear view mirror a little red glare is a minor inconvenience. You make a good point though. I reckon one could go a step further and make a shroud but I opted for simple. I admire all the cool solutions people are posting. Seriously though, it is what it is. I'm going to leave the post alone. Awesome if others want to add to it. |
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JerryMCarter1 Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 6199 Location: N.W. Phoenix
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:23 am Post subject: |
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The research has been conclusive and verified internationally to the point that every car maker has them- Apparently tail lights are not at eye level and people can see that third light quicker -which can save lives !
Jerry _________________ Experience always triumphs over hearsay and You get to select which theory to believe |
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Nepenthe88 Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2010 Posts: 1320 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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JerryMCarter1 wrote: |
The research has been conclusive and verified internationally to the point that every car maker has them- Apparently tail lights are not at eye level and people can see that third light quicker -which can save lives !
Jerry |
This is exactly why I put a 3rd on, and why I mounted it high. Everyone today seems to be driving SUV's might just as well have something closer to their height, so that they can see you (especially if they're tailgating!!). (ps, I'm also gonna go back and add a link to this in my build thread in case anyone's trolling thru and looking for ideas, cause there's some really good examples here! Kudos all!!) _________________ a Black & Blue Su-BUS-aroo
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68IHscout Samba Member
Joined: March 10, 2010 Posts: 3122 Location: santa ana ca
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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After what Jerry Mc poste d I am inspired to come up with something of my on creatio n(like the (O P) |
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JerryMCarter1 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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I will build one for my vert in late Sept -- for sure
Jerry M. Carter _________________ Experience always triumphs over hearsay and You get to select which theory to believe |
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cferry7 Samba Member
Joined: February 17, 2011 Posts: 400 Location: S.E. U.S.A
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:14 pm Post subject: HISTORIC Vehicle |
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Hi Willhelm -
Thanks for the information concerning NY Police or NY Vehicle
Mechanical Lighting Violation Law's.
I feel fortunate that in states MD, VA, NC I've been stopped for Lighting on my Beetle in the past, they have always been very considerate - most times only a Verbal Warning.
Brings up interest about the Historic Vehicle Mechanical / Lighting
/ Operation Laws ? _________________ 1st : ' 71 Super , 1641 cc , ~ Stock - a keeper !
2nd: ' 70 Standard , Totaled 7-14-01 , R.I.P. |
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68IHscout Samba Member
Joined: March 10, 2010 Posts: 3122 Location: santa ana ca
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: HISTORIC Vehicle |
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cferry7 wrote: |
Hi Willhelm -
Thanks for the information concerning NY Police or NY Vehicle
Mechanical Lighting Violation Law's.
I feel fortunate that in states MD, VA, NC I've been stopped for Lighting on my Beetle in the past, they have always been very considerate - most times only a Verbal Warning.
Brings up interest about the Historic Vehicle Mechanical / Lighting
/ Operation Laws ? |
lighting ?? Like a burned out bulb ????or for the lack of a third light??? |
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