Carburetor/Distributor

[CPO_05]

I am running a 1600 SP with a 30PICT 1 and a 009 Distributor in my 67 Splitty.

After doing research online about hesitation issues, I have come to learn that the 009 was not made for the Type 2's or the bigger 1600's, which could lead to hesitation problems.

I would like to upgrade mine and I was curious to what other people with 1600's were running as a carb/dist combo in their buses.

[Glenn]

Bosch 019 mechanical works well on a 1600SP with a 30PICT-1.
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[CPO_05]

If you don't mind me asking, what does the 019 do better than the 009? From what I was reading you need the vacuum advance with the bigger carb for these engines.

Just curious.

[Glenn]

The curve is better than the 009.

The 019 originally came in a Bus. It works well with stock to mild performance engines.
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[zozo]

Where does the 010 stand in the equation?

[Glenn]

The 010 works better with larger displacement, big heads and cam. The curve works better with high performance engines.
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[Campy]

For many years, I used 009 distributors on my 1600 cc single port and dual port bus engines, and with no problems. The only time that my engines have had "hesitation" when taking off in first or second gears was with the dual port engines, due to their split manifolds. Right now, the single port 1600 cc engine in my 1963 bus uses a vacuum advance distributor and it runs really well. I love single port engines.
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Campy: In your '63 with the vacuum advance, what size carb are you using?

[VolksFire]

There have been many threads discussing this sort of topic. I would encourage you to research the forums a little bit, I know that many people have posted their experiences with various carb/distributor combinations. Anyways, here's my 2 cents.

I have used a 009, 019, 010, 205m, 205t, 205L, 205k, 205p.... at some point on my 1600 SP's with an original 30pict1 (and governor).

Pretty much any of those above 205 vacuum distributors will work. I happen to favor the 205m (the 64-65 version, part number 111 905 205m, not the 113 version from 68, but that one also works).

I run it on my 63 sc and dc, although I plan to experiment soon with a fat cap 40 hp dizzy which would've been original for a 63 with the 1500 option (yes, now a 1600).

Anyways, the 009 sucked but I carry one on long trips as a spare just in case of whatever and its a pretty basic dizzy and cheap, that's why they are popular. The 010 worked well on my 1600dp with a 34pict3 and on my 1776 with kadrons (although I now run an 019 on there). The 019 was the best as a mechanical dizzy option for the 1600sp, but I still prefer vacuum dizzys.

As for what carb to run, you already have it. The 30pict1 is awesome. 28 Picts just don't cut it on a 1600 (someone feel free to prove me wrong, I'd like to know how it's jetted and/or modified). The H30/31 is the new carb that's available new in the box. It also comes with an adapter to be run on a dp engine. Most of these new carbs leak bad thru the throttle shafts. At the shop i work at, we often have to return the carb and get another because it is so bad. Keep the 30pict1 and try a vacuum distributor.
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[Campy]

My single port engine has either a SOLEX 30 PICT-1 or 2 carburetor on it. Some thirty years ago, a mechanic told me to stay away from the 30 PICT-3 carburetor: it has a redisgned idling circuit. I uaed one and it did not work very well.
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[jeremyrockjock]

What about a 34 pict 3 on a 1600cc. Whats the best distributor?
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[Mr Mike]

Hey volksfire,
Read your comment on the test use of a "big cap" forty horse distributer
on your 1600 single port. Thought I'd share with you ( and anyone else that cares) I've been running a "big cap" with a 30 pict 1 on my '63
15 window with 1600SP about three years now.

My engine has around eight thousand miles since over haul. The bus is 12 volt. For what its worth I use Castrol HD 30 and on occasion when on the road 30-50.

Last March, the wife and I drove from our home north of Seattle out to the midwest ( a small town in Missouri south of St Louis) and back.
Normally I prefer back roads and two lane roads.
This trip we took I-5 to Portland, Or, then 84 through the Williamette valley, and then 80 across Wyoming then dropped down to Denver and took 70 all the way across to Missouri where we dropped down to hiway 44 for our last leg. We followed the same route home.

Weather and temperatures varied from 55 and raining like crazy when we left Washington (26 March ) to the late seventys in Missouri.
On flat stretchs particularly in Colorado and Kansas the bus cruised easily at 65 to 70. To be honest most of the time we rolled at 60. The bus seems happier at that speed. The winds in Kansas were easier to handle
also. I roll on stock 6.40-15 bias ply tires from Cocker.

I need to check my total milage for the trip,
but we had no troubles at all the entire run and while I didn't check gas milage every time, on the flats we got about 24.5 MPG.
On the hills ( theres a lot of them between Oregon and Kansas)
about 20 to 22) To be honest the 1600 is a dependable engine ( I think)
but maybe not the best for longer trips. It took a good two weeks to make the run out to Missouri. About 11 days to get back ( tail wind?)

I'm not any kind of expert on Carbs and distributers but I'm realy pleased
with the performance of my engine with the Big Cap.
It helped get us across the continental divide ( about nine grand?)
at a rompin' stompin forty miles an hour.

Funny thing on the entire trip we didn't see any aircooled VW's of any type. None at all, strange.

[zozo]

You only drove less than 150 miles a day? ~1800 miles, 2 weeks

That's the way to take a vacation. Can't call that a "hectic" pace, that's for damn sure.

[Mr Mike]

Hey ZOZO,
We stopped at a lot of places to take the "tour". The Williamette Valley
in Oregon kept us a while also. God's country! In Kansas
we checked out Fort Reily, and then later did the tour of General Custers
house where his wife lived while he was in the field chasing indians.
We spent a couple nights while hitting some museums also. Guess I should have said that.

We've driven the Pacific Coast hiway twice from Whidbey Island to the
Washington coast then down to San Diego to visit my old ship, USS Midway (I'm a retired 30 Year Navy guy) For us thats about a 10 day run.
Gotta love it! The wife and I are both in our mid seventies by the way.

[zozo]

[EverettB]

[Glenn]

[EverettB]

I'm going to try that in my '61 1500cc Bus soon as I want the '63 to be as stock as possible.
The '61 has one of your 010s with a 30 PICT-1 right now as my used 019 was sticking.

I have used an 010 in the '63 too, the mileage was the same but the big cap accelerates a little nicer.
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[Glenn]

John. that's normal.
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