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Zeitgeist 13
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 Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 6:00 am Post subject: Multiple mods per section |
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Sambaru fiefdoms must be preserved
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Glenn 
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There are a number of "Super Moderators" which can moderate all forums even if they are not listed, so there is not forum with only one moderator.
Moderators discuss specific topics/posts and general "moderating style" behind the scenes so you are mistaken in thinking that any one moderator can do as they please.
We work as a group, it's just certain mods have duties in forums that they have better knowledge than the others.
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Zeitgeist 13
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 6:46 am Post subject: |
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I moderate on several other sites, so I know how the game is played. It's best to have duplicate model-specific mods in each section because they know the subject matter and players, and spend a good deal of time in their sections. This isn't really a controversial proposition here
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Glenn
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Most moderating is not technical. It's enforcing the rules, as they interpret them, keeping the topics on topic and keeping the players in line.
I don't know much about Vanagons but i know when someone posts an ad, when 2 people are auguring for the sake of arguing and when a topic no longer resembles the original post.
But then, this is Everett's site and all final decisions are up to him.
If you have specific requests, you should address them to him via PMs.
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r39o
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:16 am Post subject: Re: multiple mods per section |
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| Shouldn't each section have at least two mods, so that they're run via consensus, rather than as private fiefdoms? |
Dude,
I have a standing request for the Super Mods to watch my "fiefdom" with me.
Unlike some, I am not there watching the kiddies 24 / 7.
I ask for help on a frequent basis on the Moderator Discussion forum.
If you look, there are a few forums with only one mod listed.
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| I moderate on several other sites,........ |
You have stated on several occasions you are a mod elsewhere.
I am curious where that is, please?
-Walt
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blankmange
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:23 am Post subject: Re: multiple mods per section |
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| Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
| Shouldn't each section have at least two mods, so that they're run via consensus, rather than as private fiefdoms? |
You have stated on several occasions you are a mod elsewhere.
I am curious where that is, please?
-Walt |
why, so you can be a pain-in-the-ass over there?
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Glenn described the situation correctly.
Even in the sections with one one "real" moderator listed, there are at least 2 moderators, possibly 3 or more.
There are also certain members that effectively act as moderators without actually being assigned as such, as they use the "Report" button when needed.
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r39o
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:32 am Post subject: Re: multiple mods per section |
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| blankmange wrote: |
| r39o wrote: |
| Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
| Shouldn't each section have at least two mods, so that they're run via consensus, rather than as private fiefdoms? |
You have stated on several occasions you are a mod elsewhere.
I am curious where that is, please?
-Walt |
why, so you can be a pain-in-the-ass over there? |
No, because he has dangled that carrot sooooo many times, I want to know.
So I am asking him to put up or shut up.
PS: I do not have that much extra time to be a pita on other web sites.
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Zeitgeist 13
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:36 am Post subject: A small sampling |
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Sambaru fiefdoms must be preserved
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Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik?
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EverettB
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What you described is the situation, without there being a 2nd formal moderator name at the top of some sections.
In regards to Vanagon:
If there is someone who wants to nominate themselves as a "real" 2nd moderator in there, feel free to PM me and you will be reviewed.
There are a number of members on the site that do not want the (possible) headaches of being a named moderator but effectively act as such. If you are active in "their" section(s) you will know who they are.
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r39o
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You mean I can have some "named" help?
Wow!!!!!
Then I will not be the only mushroom with a target painted on them.
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Zeitgeist 13
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Sambaru fiefdoms must be preserved
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Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik?
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Glenn
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Put my name on the list.
They love me over there already 
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Glenn
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Don't say I've never done you any favors.
Since I stirred the pot I'd offer my services, but I'm nearly as hated as Terry Kay around there. |
Nominating yourself is a non-starter.
Also, as Ev stated, you don't have to be a moderator to help. If you see a problem you can always hit , PM the moderator, PM a Super Mod or PM Everett. There's a large number of members that help in keeping things running and do this on a regular basis.
Also, to Walt's credit, he asks for advice many time about topics that are problematic. He also removes topics so we can review them and many times they are "sanitized" and returned.
As a moderator on other sites, you know that you can't be everyone's friend. You have to make hard decisions and get blamed for everything. It's a thankless job and some people make it harder than it needs to be.
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| Glenn wrote: |
Put my name on the list.
They love me over there already |
Dang....
I was hoping for a good cop / bad cop.
Not two bad cops! 
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Glenn
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| r39o wrote: |
| Glenn wrote: |
Put my name on the list.
They love me over there already |
Dang....
I was hoping for a good cop / bad cop.
Not two bad cops! |
More like bad cop, very bad cop
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Zeitgeist 13
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Sambaru fiefdoms must be preserved
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'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
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Glenn
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I've restored a number of Mercedes distributors and I feel your pain. MB owners can be very difficult to deal with.
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EverettB
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| Glenn wrote: |
As a moderator on other sites, you know that you can't be everyone's friend. You have to make hard decisions and get blamed for everything. It's a thankless job and some people make it harder than it needs to be. |
I actually like modding the tech sections, 'cause it's mostly about rendering assistance and such, but OT is like an 18 hour hot Summer ride in an non-airconditioned schoolbus with 47 screaming 6 year olds. |
This can be done without being a formal moderator... and is often how we choose moderators.
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:38 am Post subject: Re: A small sampling |
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Like many model sections, Vanagon/EV has a few cliques, so it becomes an issue of fairness and neutrality amongst the mod staff. Having several mods can help members feel that there's some fair representation from on high. |
I can moderate in there, and I read most of the threads. If it's a question of fairness, I can assure you that at this point I think you're all crazier than rats in a coffee can, every single one of you.
I used to give that honor to the Bay Bus Folks, but after the last few weeks, you guys blow them out of the water. |
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