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wsrkar
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 Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:21 am Post subject: California black plate license plate |
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I have a Porsche Speedster that I purchased in 1983 in San Francisco. The Black plate with yellow letters and numbers was LUX 701. Can anyone tell me how I can get information regarding past owners of the car, I know the car was purchased in Del Mar, Ca in around 1975 from the owner I purchased the car from. He bought it on a used car lot and can not give any information about the car's earlier history. The car was a factory 1957 black Speedster with chassis number 83592 and engine number 66320. The car was actually titled under the engine number when I purchased it.
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William Crowell
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doublecabmel
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:06 am Post subject: plate |
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| I don't think L was from 1957. I think it is more like 1960. It's possible that those weren't the original plates, or maybe those were the plates given to the car after it was reregistered. Maybe it came from out of state. Either way there are pretty much period correct. You can also personalize new ones and then paint them black and yellow- the new trend |
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356JAEGER
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Your plates would have been reissued to the car in 1962 when the black on yellow plates were recalled and replaced by the yellow on black that you currently have. Ownership history is difficult because of privacy issues. Kind of like an orphan looking for birth parents.
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Barry Brisco
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:52 am Post subject: Re: California black plate license plate |
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| I have a Porsche Speedster that I purchased in 1983 in San Francisco. The Black plate with yellow letters and numbers was LUX 701. Can anyone tell me how I can get information regarding past owners of the car... |
Hello (your name?),
As Joel has pointed out, those plates are not the original plates issued to your car in 1957. See http://porsche356registry.org/resources/tech-artic...lates.html
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| In January 1963, the state changed back to a "black/yellow" plate style (black background with yellow letters) and did a complete reissue of plates to all CA registered vehicles. All old plates had to be turned in by years end in exchange for the new black/yellow plates. This new plate style was used through 1968, and always had the year "63" stamped in the upper right corner no matter what year it was issued. Every year, owners received a new year sticker when they paid their vehicle registration fees. |
Hopefully someone who knows something about the car will read your post and contact you.
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| The car was actually titled under the engine number when I purchased it. |
That was often done in those days. I assume when you registered the car the DMV used the Porsche chassis serial number.
Good luck in your search,
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wsrkar
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| Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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The car is registered with the 356 Registry.
California did have the car titled under the engine number until 1983 when I purchased it. The DMV told me titling a car by engine number stopped in 1956. Obviously some DMV clerk did not get the message since this 1957 car was titled using the engine number and not the chassis number 83592.
The car is titled by chassis number now and is in Florida and no longer in California. |
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ensys
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| Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Mr.wsrkar:
The Trusty Coupe was also registered with its engine no. in '57 (for black plate tags), so I believe the clerk was mildly mistaken.
Getting this situation rectified (in Calif.) was doable albeit with just enough inconvenience to test one's determination.
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