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Constantine
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 Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:36 pm Post subject: 72 Baja Build |
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Finally got a beetle. Paid $1500 for it and parked it to plan my baja build.
Have been lurking the site and found alot of great info. It's rust free body with some small holes in the pan and a one piece front. I want to cut the front better,install a full cage and front tubes for the front clip to attach to and front tube stinger. Probably replace pans(still not sure) and any other suggestions. I took all the wiring out as it was hacked to pieces.
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Congratulations on your purchase, and welcome to The Samba. The guys
here on the offroad forum are truly a great help!
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Constantine
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| ZARJDR wrote: | Congratulations on your purchase, and welcome to The Samba. The guys
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Thanks and really looking forward to the build and I am wanting to go to run it in a desert next year. |
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pafree
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: 72 Baja Build |
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| Constantine wrote: | any other suggestions. I took all the wiring out as it was hacked to pieces.
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looks like a good start. rewire it, get it running and stopping and have some fun. make a list of things you would like to do and plan downtime periods between having fun so you don't have a on going, non running project.
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dustymojave
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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You say you want to cut the front of the body cleaner.
I suggest that until you get the full roll cage installed and braces from the cage A pillars to the door hinge mounts, that you leave as much of the front 1/4 panels as you can. At least cut no farther back than the fender bolt hole just ahead of the gas filler. You want some metal in there to support your doors so they don't sag. And you'll still need something to support the gas filler neck.
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Constantine
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:00 am Post subject: Re: 72 Baja Build |
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| pafree wrote: | | Constantine wrote: | any other suggestions. I took all the wiring out as it was hacked to pieces.
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looks like a good start. rewire it, get it running and stopping and have some fun. make a list of things you would like to do and plan downtime periods between having fun so you don't have a on going, non running project. |
Sounds like good advice. |
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Constantine
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| dustymojave wrote: | You say you want to cut the front of the body cleaner.
I suggest that until you get the full roll cage installed and braces from the cage A pillars to the door hinge mounts, that you leave as much of the front 1/4 panels as you can. At least cut no farther back than the fender bolt hole just ahead of the gas filler. You want some metal in there to support your doors so they don't sag. And you'll still need something to support the gas filler neck. |
Yeah I agree and have been looking at cage options. |
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Constantine
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Ok so I went to my local u pull it yard today to look for a front wiring harness and didn't find the harness but did stumble upon this find.
First Beetle parts purchase, LOL
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| Constantine wrote: | | Ok so I went to my local u pull it yard today to look for a front wiring harness] |
you can get spools and 30 foot sections of wire in different gauges and colors from Home Depot that is used for trailer lighting. Dale M (on here) has lots and lots of beautiful wiring diagrams that i have used to wire street, off road and trikes. Harbor Freight sells wire connectors, heat shrink and wire (not as good as Home Depot) to help you along. get you a good marine grade fuse box and get busy. stock VW wiring is confusing. by making it simple and doing it yourself then you will know how to fix electrical problems when they come up.
here is a example of one of his diagrams:
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Constantine
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The engine harness is good and I have good wiring all the way to where it goes through the firewall
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Constantine
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[quote="pafree"] | Constantine wrote: | | Ok so I went to my local u pull it yard today to look for a front wiring harness] |
you can get spools and 30 foot sections of wire in different gauges and colors from Home Depot that is used for trailer lighting. Dale M (on here) has lots and lots of beautiful wiring diagrams that i have used to wire street, off road and trikes. Harbor Freight sells wire connectors, heat shrink and wire (not as good as Home Depot) to help you along. get you a good marine grade fuse box and get busy. stock VW wiring is confusing. by making it simple and doing it yourself then you will know how to fix electrical problems when they come up.
How do I find the other diagrams. I tried to search for them?
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Constantine
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Thanks printed out some and going to tackle it myself.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Constantine wrote: | Ok so I went to my local u pull it yard today to look for a front wiring harness and didn't find the harness but did stumble upon this find.
First Beetle parts purchase, LOL
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That is a cool oil cooler housing, but you are going to run hotter oil temp. with a non-doghouse oil cooler. The doghouse cooler is a flat plate design that is much more efficient that the tube type coolers. The aftermarket flat plate (Mesa type) coolers that are not on the fan shroud will not have air flow at slow speeds. It would be good for an extra cooler housing if you keep the stock cooler. 
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I was going to check and see if I have the stock one in it also? It has a cooler mounted on the back when I bought it?
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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I have a good front harness I just pulled out of a 72 front clip. Still hooked up to the fuse block. If you Want it and will pay the shipping you can have it. Should go in a 10$ flat rate box. I think the headlight plugs are cut off but other than that it should all be there.
The front is what's up front around the dash. I also have the steering Collum leads
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Constantine
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| AEH wrote: | I have a good front harness I just pulled out of a 72 front clip. Still hooked up to the fuse block. If you Want it and will pay the shipping you can have it. Should go in a 10$ flat rate box. I think the headlight plugs are cut off but other than that it should all be there.
The front is what's up front around the dash. I also have the steering Collum leads |
That would be awesome I would be glad to. Just give me your info.
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Constantine
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PMed you Thanks
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| Constantine wrote: | | I was going to check and see if I have the stock one in it also? It has a cooler mounted on the back when I bought it? |
I looked at your photo and you have an external cooler. I cannot see if you have the stock shroud, but if you do then you will have the doghouse. Are there two outlets, about 2" dia. on the side of the fan shroud. These would be going to the heater boxes. The doghouse cooler is located in a small housing on the backside of the shroud. A doghouse, though smaller than your cooler, has more cooling surface area due to its flat plate design. Plus, the cooling fan pushes air over the cooler even when the bug is not moving.
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