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gondiwindi Samba Member

Joined: December 12, 2006 Posts: 808 Location: Tampa Bay, FL
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:19 pm Post subject: Which clip for replacement 1963 ragtop? |
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Would a 1960 ragtop clip work for a 1963 bug? Just wondering if the smaller back windows is the main hurdle with determining the compatible age for a replacement clip?
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GB2S Samba Member

Joined: October 27, 2003 Posts: 823 Location: Omaha
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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I have a 63 ragtop. Both are 2 fold tops. the only difference that I know of is a 63 clip has a folding golde handle. I also think there were different plastic stops at the rear. I think it should be fine though.
Geoff _________________ 1963 Ragtop |
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esde Samba Member

Joined: October 20, 2007 Posts: 794 Location: central rust belt
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| The 2 fold clips should be the same. The tracks are different, but interchangeable. Was 63 the only year for the folding handle? My 62 has the more common, plain chrome handle. |
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EVfun Samba Member

Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 676 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Do you have the entire top mechanism from your crushed '63? If you have that in good condition the question would be, what year sunroof sedans have the same sunroof body metal as a '63?
That way you could use your top. A sunroof clip without the sunroof is likely to be cheaper. It will also keep your car sheet metal stock for future value. _________________
| Wildthings wrote: | | As a general rule, cheap parts are the most expensive parts you can buy. |
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RareAir Samba Member

Joined: May 11, 2002 Posts: 12598 Location: 18 miles North of the border
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| esde wrote: | | Was 63 the only year for the folding handle? My 62 has the more common, plain chrome handle. |
Yes, folding handle is '63-only part _________________ 1947 Type 11a
1954 Type 117
1956 Type 151
1966 Type 151
1966 Type 251
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gondiwindi Samba Member

Joined: December 12, 2006 Posts: 808 Location: Tampa Bay, FL
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Good questions. I have all of the complete ragtop parts (fortunately I was able to strip those as the car was getting prepped for paint), but I need the sheet metal clip to weld in. You know how there were slight changes as bug moved on. I want to avoid buying a clip and then the roof doesn't line up with the doors, front and rear windows etc.
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EVfun Samba Member

Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 676 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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The rear window, B pillars, A pillars and window sizes where the same from 1958-1964. The '64 wouldn't work for you because it has the metal sunroof. Hopefully others here can say if there are any other subtle changes to the sheet metal, sunroof or other wise, that may effect the fit or appearance.
I try to figure out the right questions to ask. However, I'm not a fan of sunroof cars -- probably has something to do with living in the Pacific North Wet (err, West.) My first thought was the unfortunate accident gave you a good reason to put a sedan roof on it. It just seemed out of place right after your loss (though it didn't take long for someone to ask about the condition of the tarp.)  _________________
| Wildthings wrote: | | As a general rule, cheap parts are the most expensive parts you can buy. |
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esde Samba Member

Joined: October 20, 2007 Posts: 794 Location: central rust belt
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, folding handle is '63-only part |
So VW went extra-fancy with a folding handle, but down graded the rails with the plastic short rails? I wonder what was up with that? And who was "Golde" the handle manufacturer? Sorry to hijack, but curiosity has me. |
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gondiwindi Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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EV - You're right. I forgot about the '64 > metal sunroof. Make's it easier on the end point. Yeah, I thought that the tarp comment was cute.... real cute!
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VWAdam Samba Member

Joined: February 14, 2002 Posts: 2994 Location: Birmingham, Alabama
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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I put a late '63 clip (I say that because it had one piece rails) in my '59 and it fit just fine. _________________ All he needed was a wheel in his hand and four on the road. |
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AlteWagen Troll
Joined: February 23, 2007 Posts: 5362
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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May 1956 to August 1963 use the same "hole". The jaws for the headliner are smaller on early clips but thats it.
Long one piece rails were also used on late 63, 64-67 standards and as replacement pieces.
| RareAir wrote: | | Yes, folding handle is '63-only part |
True for type I, the same folding handle was used on deluxe bus up to 67 |
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gondiwindi Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Perfect. Thanks everyone. |
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Glenn A Samba Member

Joined: October 09, 2006 Posts: 962 Location: NY
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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I welded an oval clip into a 64. As long as the clip and parts you use have four round corners your good. I think there is a one year only 56 that has square corners in the rear and round in the front. _________________
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65 walk through EzCamper
67single cab huge project
010 TDI sportwagen
And a stupid Baywindow. |
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AlteWagen Troll
Joined: February 23, 2007 Posts: 5362
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| The difference in the early clips (aug 55-april 56) is the rear bow mounting nuts. In the early clip the nuts are welded to the roof while the later clips have slots to adjust the tension. The mechanisms and bows are another story |
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