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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:40 am Post subject: |
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vwsb74 wrote: |
Just to report my new engine 2180cc with slr 310 107 lobe 42/37 stage 2 heads 10cr empi48"s made 170hp @ 6k no belt. I'm pretty sure it will make more power after few miles and little fine tuning. |
How's it drive? _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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vwsb74 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:41 am Post subject: |
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fivelugshortaxle wrote: |
vwsb74 wrote: |
Just to report my new engine 2180cc with slr 310 107 lobe 42/37 stage 2 heads 10cr empi48"s made 170hp @ 6k no belt. I'm pretty sure it will make more power after few miles and little fine tuning. |
How's it drive? |
Not in the car yet. I will keep you guys updated soon _________________ 74 super beetle
2011 ford explorer traded
2010 mazda 3 hatchback
2014 Honda odyssey
2180cc 48IDA clone
Xr310 cam =171hp@6k rpm sold so as the car😢 |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Lets hear it....video! _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: steve long xr 310 cam |
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Finally driving my 68. My 2276 with SLR XR310 cam is just rediculous. Power doesn't stop. _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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madmike Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 5291 Location: Atlanta,Michigan
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:06 am Post subject: Re: steve long xr 310 cam |
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Now Go for a ride in a 'Turboed' Bug
It will make u swallow your gum _________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
"If I'm ever on Life Support,UNPLUG Me, Then Plug me back In see if that Works" |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:56 am Post subject: Re: steve long xr 310 cam |
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madmike wrote: |
Now Go for a ride in a 'Turboed' Bug
It will make u swallow your gum |
Can't imagine it....gotta be unreal! This 2276 is scary quick _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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Alstrup Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2007 Posts: 7180 Location: Videbaek Denmark
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:47 am Post subject: Re: steve long xr 310 cam |
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Easy now, you just havent been in a VW with a decent engine before. 170 hp is not scary, - unless the car is not set up for power. Itīs kinda funny, when we get engines from abroad that have the XR310 we typically swop them to something else because we think its a little lazy. But yes, it revs high, and if thatīs what you want its the right cam. |
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dsrtfox Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2009 Posts: 443 Location: Phoenix
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: steve long xr 310 cam |
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And what do you Euro guys use instead ? |
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2002 Posts: 12785 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: steve long xr 310 cam |
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fuguboy Samba Member
Joined: December 14, 2004 Posts: 213
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: steve long xr 310 cam |
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Engle K-10 or web 86b+3 is comparable ? 🤷🏿♂️Optimum? |
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Alstrup Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2007 Posts: 7180 Location: Videbaek Denmark
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: steve long xr 310 cam |
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Sumptinī like that
In a given engine with a good combo:
FK 10 revs higher than the 86C
86C makes more power and especially torque than the FK10
Eagle 2292 is between the FK10 and the 86C
Raptor010 outperforms all 3 on hp, and revs high. Torque is between the 10ér and the 86C. Can be run with a sgl. Oteva S90 spring.
FK46 is a hairswitdth under the Raptor 010, but is serius rough on the valve train. Donīt use that one except if you have bushed the case and are ready to refresh valves/seats on a rather regualr basis.
Nowak 332. About like the FK10, but needs much less spring pressure.
And then we havenīt even gone into the Pauter cams.
This is OUR opinion based on something like 200 engines passing through the dyno over time.
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wheel607 Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2004 Posts: 1845
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: steve long xr 310 cam |
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try 105 degree lobe center from Steve Long on that 2276....all things being the same, you will be all in by 6500 rpm. Most of the power will be where you need it, stoplight to stoplight and not much beating you. |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: steve long xr 310 cam |
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wheel607 wrote: |
try 105 degree lobe center from Steve Long on that 2276....all things being the same, you will be all in by 6500 rpm. Most of the power will be where you need it, stoplight to stoplight and not much beating you. |
Mine is on 106.....there much difcerence between 105 and 106? This thing will brrak the tires loose pretty easy. And I don't feel like much will beat me right now. ...this motor turned out exactly how I wanted it to.One of the members here is in Salem and is going to tbrow a wideband on it when he gets back from vacation....looking forward to seeing what that does. _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2011 Posts: 4254 Location: Aumsville, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: steve long xr 310 cam |
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86C is what's going in the motor I'm building now. Got a shop now so I can actually work on these things much more efficiently.
Also running 1.4's on this XR310 right now. ...springs can handle the extra lift from going to 1.5's so I'll be ordering a set of those soon...should give me a pinch more. Lol! _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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Alstrup Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2007 Posts: 7180 Location: Videbaek Denmark
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:39 am Post subject: Re: steve long xr 310 cam |
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Not necessarily much more hp, but more power above the curve. You definitely need to adjust the CR for the extra lift. At least 10,6 preferably 11-1. Then itīll rock, hard.
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: steve long xr 310 cam |
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Alstrup wrote: |
Not necessarily much more hp, but more power above the curve. You definitely need to adjust the CR for the extra lift. At least 10,6 preferably 11-1. Then itīll rock, hard.
T |
CR in my sig is wrong.....ended up being 10.4:1. _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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wheel607 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: steve long xr 310 cam |
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[quote="Alstrup"]Not necessarily much more hp, but more power above the curve. You definitely need to adjust the CR for the extra lift. At least 10,6 preferably 11-1. Then itīll rock, hard.
T[/quote
Alstrup is right....my compression on an almost identical motor to yours, except 105 degree lobe centers, is 9.5 to 1...RWHP dyno was 136. Probably with that compression at 10.5 or 11 at speed will offer another 10-15 hp, but remember hp is heat. Hope this helps....pm me if you have any additional questions. |
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fivelugshortaxle Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:17 am Post subject: |
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Bad bug wrote: |
fivelugshortaxle wrote: |
Sorry to jack the thread |
No problem with the jacking. I am here to learn. I wanted to run this cam with some squishies piston and a set of 48mm dellorto carbs. |
Old thread..but I just switched from an exr304...Tim's stage 2's ...dellorto 48's with 37mm vents....to xr310 on a 106 lobe...Tim's stage 2's with 650 springs....same Dell 48's but switched out the 37mm venturis for some 40's. Unreal. The 2332 woke up!. Motor is out of the 68 now and either going in the 65 sunroof one owner original paint I just picked up or the 64 I may get this weekend. This cam on a 106 lobe 2ith the right combo is awesome. Comes on hard at around 2700 and pulls like a raped up to just around 6500.....it'll pull to 7000 but it feels like it stops making power around 6500. Damn thing breaks the tires loose easily and second gear can get squirly around 3 grand if it's not new pavement. Love it. _________________ Good things come to those who wait.
2332 with lots of goodies....
Rotating assembly balanced by Brothers VW
4340 84mm crank
AA 94mm p&c' s
Total seal 2nd ring, rest are Grants
5.5 h beams
Magnum straight cuts
Steve Long XR310 on a 106
CB 1.4 rockers
CB Magnaspark 2 distributor
NGK D7ea plugs
A1 lowdown 1 3/4 with single muffler
Dellorto 48's with 40 venturies
Kennedy Stage 2 with Daiken disc |
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wheel607 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:47 am Post subject: |
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vwsb74 wrote: |
Just to report my new engine 2180cc with slr 310 107 lobe 42/37 stage 2 heads 10cr empi48"s made 170hp @ 6k no belt. I'm pretty sure it will make more power after few miles and little fine tuning. |
This must have been on a West Coast dyno......true numbers on that engine with 10cr should be around 140 hp |
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Esky Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: steve long xr 310 cam |
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140ish at the wheels. |
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