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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:05 am    Post subject: Crescent Indentation on Rear Hatch - Update, new evidence Reply with quote

I read in another thread that 61 had the crescent indentation above the handle on the rear hatch. My June 61 15 window does not have this crescent. It shows no sign of being repaired or replaced either.
Was this strictly a North American hatch?
My bus has no export code, so I suspect it may have been a tourist delivery.
Anybody know exactly when this crescent was on the hatch's?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think Deluxes had the crescent. My '62 15 window doesn't have it either. I have noticed from the pics I have looked at that it's only standards that have the crescent shape.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, that makes sense to me, cause a buddy's 61 Kombi has the crescent, and it made me kinda wonder, but of course the panel/Kombi/standard hatch's were different anyhow.

Thanks, this was going to really bug me!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a year-to-year thing.

According to the Eccles book "VW Transporter and Microbus Specification Guide," page 31:

Date: 31.7.61
Chassis #: 802 956
Tailgate has half-moon finger/knuckle recess above T-handle

I'm not sure where he found this information though as I couldn't find it listed in my copy of "Progessive Refinements," which spells out most of the changes made over the years.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Guys
Any idea when the crescent disappeared?
Fat chick hatches ?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, no T-handle = no crescent.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EverettB wrote:
Yes, no T-handle = no crescent.


That means 1964 with the large rear hatch Buses.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm bumping this thread as there is new evidence to present Your Honour!

Evidently, the Deluxe did come with the crescent indentation as can be seen here on Ronnies 60 W/T.


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My 61 (bench) does not have this indent, although the Kombi's and Standards had the indent in 61, so the issue is not yet resolved.


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Can anybody shed any light on what years Deluxes came with the crescent indentation?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend has a 1960 Deluxe without it and I have a 1960 Kombi with it. Both Buses are completely original paint and still have the little rubber beading intact on the hinge.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my july '59 kombi does not have it, but my july '60 panel does. i have another rear hatch from a '59 kombi that does have it.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

None of my 1960 buses have the cresent in them, 1960 15 (May), 23 (Febuary), swivel seat kombi (October 59) all original paint buses and DD panel (March) only had the rear hatch and cargo doors on it when I got it. I will also look at the early hacthes I have in my warehouse to see if any of those have the hash in them though I don't think I know what years there from.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to further confusion, i have an og paint '61 westy with it and had an og paint '63 deluxe without it.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My '62 panel doesn't have it. It was born Feb. 1 1962.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The casino kombi has one. It was born on March 8, 1963.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After reading all the post's I just wonder if the hatch on ronnie's bus is not the original, notice it is the only piece missing the dlx trim as well. I could be wrong but that just seems to fit in with what everybody is saying.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point Happy, but Ronnie's IS a Deluxe hatch.
So far, it is the the only known Deluxe hatch in captivity with the crescent indent.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EverettB wrote:
It's a year-to-year thing.

According to the Eccles book "VW Transporter and Microbus Specification Guide," page 31:

Date: 31.7.61
Chassis #: 802 956
Tailgate has half-moon finger/knuckle recess above T-handle


He even used a pic from a Mango bus! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I have one.

1960, June production. Standard Walkthrough. Original.

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and my 63 Deluxe has the crescent.

Perhaps there is something else about this? Like destination?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

59 o.g. hatch no cresent
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The '63 15 that Fuentes sold at the '99 VW Classic.
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