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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:33 pm    Post subject: Petcock leak question. Reply with quote

Just shipped the car to myself from Arizona to Hawaii.
Drove it to the DMV to do some paperwork.
On the way home it dies with a half tank of fuel and acts like it's not getting fuel to the motor. It had been smelling like gas in the interior since it arrived. Originally thought it might have just been due to a not so good 100mm gas cap seal and some sloshing in transit.

Tow it home.
Look under the tank and there's a pretty steady stream of fuel coming out of the petcock from here:
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Took it apart, cleaned it all, put it back together.

Same leak, same place.

Below photo shows all of the washers in the order the whole thing was originally put together when I took it apart the first time.

From left to right:

Main assembly.
Petcock "rotor".
Super thin small OD washer.
Flat washer.
Wavy washer
Compression screw (I'll call it)

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So, is there something wrong here?

Any ideas on how to stop this leak, or a source for rebuild parts?

Many thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolfsburg West sells the rebuild kits. They are fairly simple to do. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

isn't there a rubber piece in there somewhere? oh wait, mine is a 56, looks different...

http://sloval.blogspot.com/2011/04/we-can-rebuild-it.html
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can also try Stoddard. I just ordered rebuild parts from them for my fuel cock. I got this link from a guy who has used them on another board. he hasnt steered me wrong yet. Smile it has an expanded view that may help you.

http://www.stoddard.com/shop/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=50&cat=Fuel+Cocks+and+Senders
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My NOS barndoor fuel tap is doing the same thing. There should be a rubber seal inside. Zar werks sells them. I just got one from him the other day. The WW ones are for the later fuel tap without the sediment bowl.
http://zarwerks.com/
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

downsbs wrote:
Wolfsburg West sells the rebuild kits. They are fairly simple to do. Good luck.


That's for the later petcock. Nothing for the early one.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JWDII wrote:
you can also try Stoddard. I just ordered rebuild parts from them for my fuel cock. I got this link from a guy who has used them on another board. he hasnt steered me wrong yet. Smile it has an expanded view that may help you.

http://www.stoddard.com/shop/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=50&cat=Fuel+Cocks+and+Senders


Thanks!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trevor P wrote:
My NOS barndoor fuel tap is doing the same thing. There should be a rubber seal inside. Zar werks sells them. I just got one from him the other day. The WW ones are for the later fuel tap without the sediment bowl.
http://zarwerks.com/


Thanks!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JWDII wrote:
you can also try Stoddard. I just ordered rebuild parts from them for my fuel cock. I got this link from a guy who has used them on another board. he hasnt steered me wrong yet. Smile it has an expanded view that may help you.

http://www.stoddard.com/shop/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=50&cat=Fuel+Cocks+and+Senders


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

55reasons wrote:
downsbs wrote:
Wolfsburg West sells the rebuild kits. They are fairly simple to do. Good luck.


That's for the later petcock. Nothing for the early one.


Oops. Sorry guys.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So nobody's got anything on this? Question
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need the squared rubber seal that is made for the early petcocks. I had them made a while back and sell them via Zarwerks. Comes with the fuel bowl seal.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what should the 'hardness' of this rubber seal be?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1418924

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i realize this is a difficult question to answer in a forum, hard, soft, it's subjective. someone bought some of the seals above and they think they are too hard. i have no issue at all with refunding their purchase, but we've sold lots of the seals to other folks and this is the first time someone has mentioned the issue, so i am thinking these are supposed to be quite hard?

if a rubber tire is about 70 durometer, these seals are maybe 80 or a bit more. does that seem right, or are the seals old and too hard to use?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they are about 80/85 durometer. they should be able to be slightly bent with your fingers. They are rigid enough to need a little massaging to seat fully but If they were softer than 75 durometer they would disort and bind when compressed and installed.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks. i was thinking also that they need to be fairly hard or the petcock will not rotate.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

germansupplyscott wrote:
thanks. i was thinking also that they need to be fairly hard or the petcock will not rotate.


But, not as hard as a stone!! These seals you cannot bent it with your finger for sure. If you would touch an original used one or a perfect NOS one, you would feel the difference between them.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnshenry wrote:
You need the squared rubber seal that is made for the early petcocks. I had them made a while back and sell them via Zarwerks. Comes with the fuel bowl seal.

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As these are no longer available through zarwerks. Would anybody know if these are still available somewhere, or where I could get a piece of the material to cut one?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: Petcock leak question. Reply with quote

http://ww2vw.com/seal-petrol-tank-valve/

also available is the bowl seal listed separately
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