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Frankenbeetle
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 Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 1:43 pm Post subject: Subaru flat 4? |
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I heard a number of weeks ago that Subaru still uses flat 4's in their cars. I thought it was crap untill last night in a fit of insomnia I found a site where a guy put a 2.2 water cooled subaru engine in his vanagon.
After a ton of reading and many cups of java I found the place to get the adaptor plates for a subaru-->Beetle engine install.
My questions are;
1) Yes it's a 2.2L engine, and water cooled, does the tranny have to be toughened up?
2) Suspension changes needed?
3) where the HELL do you put the radiator??
4) yeah, I know it's an air cooled board, but a beetle is a beetle is a beetle.
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bljones
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Location: ontario canada
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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for a seriously balls-out, kickass subaru conversion in a beetle go to www.volksrods.com and check out reub revhead's work.
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C. Kometz
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Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Frankenbeetle,
What were the sites you looked at? Sounds like a cool idea I would like to check out.
-Chris |
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Frankenbeetle
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Frankenbeetle,
What were the sites you looked at? Sounds like a cool idea I would like to check out.
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http://www.mcn.org/b/roadcow/convert.html
There ya go. The convo kit is ~500 including all parts needed. Personally I think this is more bloody inexpensive than building an air cooled 2 litre engine.
But that's not what bugs are about is it?
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Chris181Westy
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Location: Michigan, The Third Coast!
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| I have seen a few Subaru powered sandrails on the dunes and at the sand dragway. They did not look cheap but they were still getting spanked by type1 and type4 powered rails. I have not seen one in a full bodied VW. But I think Aircooled VW engines are still hard to beat for light weight power. |
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P-Dub
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Mick
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Location: RADelaide
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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You might want to try taking a look at this guys site http://www.ricola.co.uk/ He did a suberu conversion on a speedster kit, ok - not exactly the same as a bug, but he's got a lot of good info on there and its pretty applicable to a bug as its a shared pan / box etc.
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erockinit
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| hey man i have a couple of those subaru motors if you're interested. The easiest rout is o go carburated go to http://www.redlineweber.com/ also try http://www.ramengines.com/ they have some mean mods for the motors i got... |
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POWER ON
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| I have seen a few Subaru powered sandrails on the dunes and at the sand dragway. They did not look cheap but they were still getting spanked by type1 and type4 powered rails. I have not seen one in a full bodied VW. But I think Aircooled VW engines are still hard to beat for light weight power. |
You need to pay to play but in the long run it will pay off. No more valve and carb adjustments plus 30+ mpg. Not to mention smoking anything on the streets. Check this 65 out.
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=66118 |
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Hotrodvw
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If you do it, you can't hang out here anymore. 
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Towel Rail
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Hooray for newbies bumping 4-year old threads without realizing it.
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Thingggg
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Kits / wiring harness plans for stock 2.2 suby.
I have a Legacy motor fogged and setting in the garage and striped out wiring and ecu for a Vanagon someday. The motor is bigger and heavier than T4 maybe not the best for a bug.
http://www.kennedyeng.com/ |
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Max Welton
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Towel Rail
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| Hooray for newbies bumping 4-year old threads without realizing it. |
At least they used the search!
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check out what trevor is building here in ireland......impressive 
www.veewrx.com |
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maxco
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| Hi there ray here of rays vintage Volkswagen just finishing a 1970 bug with a Subaru 2.2 conversion as soon as I get some pix I will show you how its done and as far as the trans it will hold up if you don't get to rough with it thanks take care Ray |
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75smith
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| Towel Rail wrote: |
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| Hooray for newbies bumping 5-year old threads without realizing it. |
At least they used the search!
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and again....
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MidWesty79
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 This is like reading a time warp... I was incredibly surprised that someone with as many posts as Frankenbeetle had never heard of a sube conversion... I then saw the date... yup... welcome newb!!
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Crankey
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they make 6's too.... 
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