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sandhopper Samba Member
Joined: December 13, 2004 Posts: 453 Location: Norwalk Ca
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:05 am Post subject: |
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Tony anything new to add ?????? |
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yankee1919 Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2007 Posts: 486 Location: los angeles
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Hello Sandhopper,
I left the DMV about 8 yrs ago. I hope you had a success in registration.
Tony |
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Iguana Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2008 Posts: 922 Location: SOCAL
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: Funny how some people think.. |
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jgreen61 wrote: |
It is a cold hard fact that it is illegal in the state of California to convert your VW Beetle into fiberglass Dune Buggy and not regiester it as a SPCNS vehicle PERIOD ! |
Have you got a reference for your cold hard fact by chance ? or is that just your opinion based on experience ? |
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BL3Manx Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2006 Posts: 6767 Location: Northern California
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20379 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Ditto...
Note third paragraph...
Since a fiberglass buggy is not recognizable as a beetle its a SPCN...
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
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Iguana Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2008 Posts: 922 Location: SOCAL
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Dale M. wrote: |
Ditto...
Note third paragraph...
Since a fiberglass buggy is not recognizable as a beetle its a SPCN...
Dale |
is this the paragraph you are talking about
"Example: A Volkswagen "Beetle" with modified fenders, engine compartment lid, and front end, but still recognizable as a Volkswagen is not considered a specially constructed vehicle."
if so have a read it clearly says if you modify a Beetle and after it is still recognizable as a Volkswagen then it is NOT A SPCN.
Pay attention to the wording and if you can honestly tell me 90% of people don't recognize a Beach Buggy as Volkswagen then you must talk to different people to me.
The wording DOES NOT say if is cant be recognized as a Beetle, it specifically drops the word Beetle in the example.
Anyway in the last 2 years I have put 3 SPCN's on the road and had 5 rejected and told they are not SPCN as you still recognize them as a Volkswagen.
It is funny the guys on here who actually put these things on the road in any real QTY seem to view it differently to those who like to talk about what might and might not be the results. |
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JustBuggy Samba Member
Joined: August 01, 2010 Posts: 849 Location: SF Bay Area, Ca.
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 5:18 am Post subject: |
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Iguana wrote: |
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Anyway in the last 2 years I have put 3 SPCN's on the road and had 5 rejected and told they are not SPCN as you still recognize them as a Volkswagen.... |
Reading through a few threads on this topic and getting other peoples experiances there are several interpretations done by the DMV. IMO it has a lot to do with who you get at the DMV how they handle it. May also depend on the mood they are at the time. This all can be very frustrating for some while a smooth process for others. |
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20379 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 6:59 am Post subject: |
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Iguana wrote: |
Dale M. wrote: |
Ditto...
Note third paragraph...
Since a fiberglass buggy is not recognizable as a beetle its a SPCN...
Dale |
is this the paragraph you are talking about
"Example: A Volkswagen "Beetle" with modified fenders, engine compartment lid, and front end, but still recognizable as a Volkswagen is not considered a specially constructed vehicle."
if so have a read it clearly says if you modify a Beetle and after it is still recognizable as a Volkswagen then it is NOT A SPCN.
Pay attention to the wording and if you can honestly tell me 90% of people don't recognize a Beach Buggy as Volkswagen then you must talk to different people to me.
The wording DOES NOT say if is cant be recognized as a Beetle, it specifically drops the word Beetle in the example.
Anyway in the last 2 years I have put 3 SPCN's on the road and had 5 rejected and told they are not SPCN as you still recognize them as a Volkswagen.
It is funny the guys on here who actually put these things on the road in any real QTY seem to view it differently to those who like to talk about what might and might not be the results. |
Not buying your argument..... Visually they do not ever look close.... Its not about what (insiders) people know what it is it is what visually interpreted..... I have to to agree with DMV statement if I did not know a Manx style buggy was on a VW chassis I would have to think its a custom built kit car (that could be build on alien space chassis or what ever ) ...
You in the business should know this more than someone who is just a casual observer....
Dale _________________ “Fear The Government That Wants To Take Your Guns" - Thomas Jefferson.
"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
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jhoefer Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 987
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Iguana wrote: |
Dale M. wrote: |
Ditto...
Note third paragraph...
Since a fiberglass buggy is not recognizable as a beetle its a SPCN...
Dale |
is this the paragraph you are talking about
"Example: A Volkswagen "Beetle" with modified fenders, engine compartment lid, and front end, but still recognizable as a Volkswagen is not considered a specially constructed vehicle."
if so have a read it clearly says if you modify a Beetle and after it is still recognizable as a Volkswagen then it is NOT A SPCN.
Pay attention to the wording and if you can honestly tell me 90% of people don't recognize a Beach Buggy as Volkswagen then you must talk to different people to me.
The wording DOES NOT say if is cant be recognized as a Beetle, it specifically drops the word Beetle in the example.
Anyway in the last 2 years I have put 3 SPCN's on the road and had 5 rejected and told they are not SPCN as you still recognize them as a Volkswagen.
It is funny the guys on here who actually put these things on the road in any real QTY seem to view it differently to those who like to talk about what might and might not be the results. |
That paragraph is specifically referencing the "baja" style with modified fenders, hood, engine lid, etc. This is not a SPCN:
This should be a SPCN because it has a completely different body (a kit) and doesn't visually resemble a Beetle:
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andygere Samba Member
Joined: January 31, 2014 Posts: 600 Location: Central Coast, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: CA DMV and SPCNS (Specially Constructed Vehicle) |
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Has anyone purchased a completed buggy registered and titled in California as a Beetle and brought it into compliance through the SPCNS process? If so, can you share the details? |
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