5 Speed Tranny for type 1 engine?

[Bruce]

Have you looked underneath it to see what's there?
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[Type 5 Joe]

Probably a Mikey 5-speed.

They have a casting spacer between the intermediate housing (rough sand casting) and the trans case ... And a short nose cone.

No body / mount modifications needed to install one.

[Bruce]

Or if he's really lucky, a Berg 5.
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[Type 5 Joe]

That would be lucky if it was a Berg-5....

But the Mikey 5-speed and the DTM fanshroud were both developed and manufactured about 20 miles from his location.

Post a picture if you can.

[mark tucker]

I cant seem to get mine into 5th.I try&try,but it just wont go.

[Glenn]

[Type 5 Joe]

On some 5-speed conversions..... There was a really cool kit available that placed 5th gear in the reverse location at highway speeds.

It only worked above 67 M.P.H.

Try taking it out on the highway and as soon as you exceed 67-70 M.P.H.... Try slamming it into reverse. The older models required a bit of force to fully get it into 5th gear.

Don't be afraid to give it some muscle... You might need to have your significant other attempt this for you.

[58Dub]

[Juanito84]

Since we're on the 5 speed topic, what would be all the necessary modifications to the frame, torsion bar tubes, shifter, etc, in order to accomodate a Berg 5-Speed?

I know this was touched on earlier in this post I think by Glenn. I was just curious if there were any pictures or more detail of what needs to be done and perhaps how much.
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[Trevor P]

[Glenn]

Very true, early cars need the right torsion tube cut open and a pocket formed. They also need the body cut away and a boxed section made since the tranny is longer.

Mine only needed the right torsion tube clearanced with a mini-sledge.
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[Juanito84]

Sounds good. I was talking about a 1971 body on a 1972 frame. Pardon me but what's a mini sledge (or are you talking about a hammer)?
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[Glenn]

Correct.
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[Glenn]

correct.
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[Endo21]

I never did take any pictures of that old girl, all I really noticed about it was that it was a swing axle and I should have takin it out of the car before I sold it. I didnt notice any other than stock mounts holding it up or any changes in the nose cone. It was beefer, rounder than what i was used to.

[burtc]

I was considering installing a 5-speed Porsche tranny in my project car. After doing some extensive research on which was the best method, I stumbled upon Bug@5Speed in Germany. They sell a complete kit for doing the swap over (5-speed shifter, nose cone, transverse front mount, transverse rear mount for 901/915 gearbox, clutch cable mounting plate, clutch cable connector and the stub axles (if you need them).

http://www.bugat5speed.de/en/kaefer-und-co/kaefer-getriebe/umbauteile-porsche-getriebe-901914

Click on the links towards the bottom of the page to see all the available pieces that they make (you will have to use Google Translate to read).

While there are still some modifications to do, the conversion with the kit seems pretty straight-forward according to what I have read.

[ambrynmc]

I looked at that option too, but the cost scared me. I think I figured the kit was over $1,500 plus a 915 trans $2,500 rebuilt (approximately) Not to mention the horsepower limits are pretty low. I think the 901 was 150 hp and the 915 can handle 200hp? Something like that...

Finally decided on going with the Subaru 5 speed. I'm still working on it, but it is pretty cool. I ended up getting the reverse r/p at a decent discount by getting a group of guys together to buy at the same time.

[petevdub]

Surprised no one has mentioned the 923.

The Porsche 923 trans was in the '76 911e. 4cyl engine, and big trans case/gears like the later 915/930's. So the 923 is geared for a 4banger, but built like it was bolted to a 6cyl.

I think 2600 were made. Not sure.
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[Glenn]

No one mentioned the 912E because they are pretty rare.
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[Kalle]