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BCWDragon Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2013 Posts: 14 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:43 pm Post subject: Barn Find Registration |
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Hey all,
This may not be the right place or this. I bought a barn find 75 Super Beetle convertible recently and seller did not have the title. I live in Oregon and was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to get this thing titled so that I can start working on it. Any words of advice are appreciated.
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Herdfan75 Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2006 Posts: 581 Location: Tornado, WV
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: Barn Find Registration |
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BCWDragon wrote: |
Hey all,
This may not be the right place or this. I bought a barn find 75 Super Beetle convertible recently and seller did not have the title. I live in Oregon and was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to get this thing titled so that I can start working on it. Any words of advice are appreciated. |
Each state's laws are different, but you will most certainly need a bill of sale. Perhaps you can get the seller to request a duplicate title from the DMV? If the seller never had the title, it may be a hassle. |
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Herdfan75 Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2006 Posts: 581 Location: Tornado, WV
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BCWDragon Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2013 Posts: 14 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: Barn Find Registration |
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stang1986gt wrote: |
BCWDragon wrote: |
Hey all,
This may not be the right place or this. I bought a barn find 75 Super Beetle convertible recently and seller did not have the title. I live in Oregon and was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to get this thing titled so that I can start working on it. Any words of advice are appreciated. |
Each state's laws are different, but you will most certainly need a bill of sale. Perhaps you can get the seller to request a duplicate title from the DMV? If the seller never had the title, it may be a hassle. |
I have the bill of sale. The seller inherited the land (and therefor the bug in the barn) so doesn't have a title. Said he would work on it and no longer answers my calls :/ SO just want to know if there is a way to get it without him. Or if the only way is through a title company that cost $900 (for that I may just resell as parts bug) |
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BCWDragon Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2013 Posts: 14 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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Saw that but the orig owner is not an option as he is deceased :-/ |
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Herdfan75 Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2006 Posts: 581 Location: Tornado, WV
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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BCWDragon wrote: |
Saw that but the orig owner is not an option as he is deceased :-/ |
Well someone must be the executor of his estate, right? That person would have the authority to order a new title.
BTW, you have to post pics of the bug. |
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BCWDragon Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2013 Posts: 14 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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stang1986gt wrote: |
BCWDragon wrote: |
Saw that but the orig owner is not an option as he is deceased :-/ |
Well someone must be the executor of his estate, right? That person would have the authority to order a new title.
BTW, you have to post pics of the bug. |
Said person is dodging my calls as for pics Im tryin to put in now |
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Herdfan75 Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2006 Posts: 581 Location: Tornado, WV
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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BCWDragon wrote: |
stang1986gt wrote: |
BCWDragon wrote: |
Saw that but the orig owner is not an option as he is deceased :-/ |
Well someone must be the executor of his estate, right? That person would have the authority to order a new title.
BTW, you have to post pics of the bug. |
Said person is dodging my calls as for pics Im tryin to put in now |
Did you get a bill of sale?
I think without the executor's cooperation, you wont get far. I know in WV, the current title holder would have to be the individual to request the duplicate title. You may be able to get it done with a bill of sale, but who knows. |
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BCWDragon Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2013 Posts: 14 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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stang1986gt wrote: |
BCWDragon wrote: |
stang1986gt wrote: |
BCWDragon wrote: |
Saw that but the orig owner is not an option as he is deceased :-/ |
Well someone must be the executor of his estate, right? That person would have the authority to order a new title.
BTW, you have to post pics of the bug. |
Said person is dodging my calls as for pics Im tryin to put in now |
Did you get a bill of sale?
I think without the executor's cooperation, you wont get far. I know in WV, the current title holder would have to be the individual to request the duplicate title. You may be able to get it done with a bill of sale, but who knows. |
Got a bill of sale yes. He was just going to part it out and IMO it was to nice to part out. |
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Herdfan75 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like a good project! |
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13843 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Man plenty of pictures for sure.
Good luck with this. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
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jwold Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 2088 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Call the DMV, they'll help you. Was it registered & licensed in Oregon? That'll make life a lot easier.
I'm working through a similar issue with a Karmann Ghia I purchased from a Washington estate that I lost the title for (we think it got mixed with some papers and was recycled) , previous owner won't return calls or letters either.
I've been in discussion with the Oregon DMV, they've been pretty helpful so far.
Good luck. |
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Multi69s Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 5360 Location: Lefty, CA
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BCWDragon Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2013 Posts: 14 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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jwold wrote: |
Call the DMV, they'll help you. Was it registered & licensed in Oregon? That'll make life a lot easier.
I'm working through a similar issue with a Karmann Ghia I purchased from a Washington estate that I lost the title for (we think it got mixed with some papers and was recycled) , previous owner won't return calls or letters either.
I've been in discussion with the Oregon DMV, they've been pretty helpful so far.
Good luck. |
Not sure where the car was last registered. But glad to hear the the OR DMV is being helpful.
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I would first call the DMV and have them run the VIN numbers. It may have fallen out of the system if it hasn't been regestered in a long time. In CA, if it is out of the system, all you need is a bill of sale and a letter stating that the car has been parked on private property and has been not been moved on a public road since the regestration had expired.
If this is the case and the PO will not write you a letter, where you get the letter from is up to you |
Thanks for that. I did call Oregon DMV and there is no record of the VIN in the system. Maybe Ill take my bill of sale, and "letter" in and cross my fingers. Wish I had a way other then paying a tow company to get the car to DMV since they require a VIN inspection. |
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jwold Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 2088 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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You could rent a little towing trailer from u-haul and tow it there yourself (if you have a truck) or rent the truck as well.
That's a super...right? No old vw tow dolly for you then...
If you take it to the DMV in Gladstone...you're in for a long wait so bring a book. That place is packed!
Let us know how it all comes out! |
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woodendad Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2012 Posts: 129 Location: Rossville ga
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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I just went thru something similar with the missus Jeep. We had a bill of sell, but no title. DMV couldn't find the vin in any database. We went to our insurance company and purchased a title bond. They did all the leg work. I put a new plate on it yesterday, it took 5 months and we are out $120, but my new title will be here in a few weeks |
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Multi69s Samba Member
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BCWDragon Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2013 Posts: 14 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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woodendad wrote: |
I just went thru something similar with the missus Jeep. We had a bill of sell, but no title. DMV couldn't find the vin in any database. We went to our insurance company and purchased a title bond. They did all the leg work. I put a new plate on it yesterday, it took 5 months and we are out $120, but my new title will be here in a few weeks |
How did that work?
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If you belong to Triple A, they can do the vin verication for you. I don't know about OR laws, but if you tow it on the street, you will need a permit to move it. Out here in CA the DMV is very picky about letting the wheels ever touch a public road. I've done three VWs this way, but I had a car trailer. |
Oregon requires the vehicle be at the DMV for a VIN inspection. Its about 3 blocks from my house but dont think Ill be able to tow it with my Jetta lol |
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dirthead O.G. Samba Member
Joined: June 07, 2007 Posts: 230 Location: SLC
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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You can always file for an abandoned title. They will try to contact the previous owner, and then when they cant, they will issue you a title.
You can also try to do a VIN search online to see where, and to whom it was last registered. |
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BCWDragon Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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jwold wrote: |
You could rent a little towing trailer from u-haul and tow it there yourself (if you have a truck) or rent the truck as well.
That's a super...right? No old vw tow dolly for you then...
If you take it to the DMV in Gladstone...you're in for a long wait so bring a book. That place is packed!
Let us know how it all comes out! |
May have to do that. Im right off Powell like 3 blocks from the DMV. If i can't get it titled Ill take the prts I need for my Daughters bug off and sell the rest as parts. Saddens me to do that as I think its far to nice to part out but not much else to do if I cant title it. |
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