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mark tucker
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hmm I thought thats what I said, must be the transulator.  I also used the holly bugsprayers,single&duel, mpg was fine about 28, but top end just wasent quite there, they are just too small for much biger than a mild 1641.unless you open the vents up farther&rejet.(witch I did, helped a little but still too small...&ugly too. |
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lostinbaja
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The engine sound like the "Idle" is so fast, it is beyond the idle circuit of the carb.
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Altema
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| The engine sound like the "Idle" is so fast, it is beyond the idle circuit of the carb. |
Yeah, the idle is about 1,100 to 1,200rpm from the sound of it.
The craftsmanship of the manifold is nice, but I don't get the point of having all that cfm available at the carb going through stock size intake runners. Ain't gonna happen. At least there's a splitter at the bottom of the plenum which will help with flow, but in this case it will help keep the two fuel puddles separate 
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mark tucker
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| notice how he has to get the rpm up even more before he zings it.now if it had the new style twin runners it might be somethen.....what Im not at liberty to say at this junksure, as the cat is still in the bag but smells like it has pooped. |
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Nater
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A few years ago I bought a 69 ghia drag car off of the Samba and it had a Carter 4 bbl on top of a little 1914cc motor.
It ran very smooth and never missed a beat. It ran consistent 14.6 sec 1/4 mile times, at least the first time I took it out.
I did a carb, (48's) ,exhaust swap. (1-3/4") and added 1.25's on top of the w130 exhaust valves before the next time out.
1/4 mile dropped to 13.2 after a couple of other little tweaks.
The 4 bbls do work, just depends on what you are looking for I guess.
I gave it to a friend of mine he did some welding to the base and put it on his rat rod...loves it.
A pic from head inspect during swap..
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72KYLE
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modok
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so you wanna cut a big hole in herbie's decklid?
There are lots of alternatives to IDFs that DO fit and work right, and you can invent new ones too if you want.
It doesen't take that huge carb to feed a 1 3/8 tube
If you want simple get a slide type motorcycle carb. It's like a progressive but better, it is progressive by nature and has three jets instead of 10 or 20 |
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72KYLE
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Altema
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| Got this now. |
Ahh, I'd recognize that front end anywhere! We had a used '64 when I was a kid, and was so traumatized when they sold it that they had to keep me home from school. |
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Dale M.
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I could have painted it pink and put swastikas in the gumballs if I wanted to.
Sold it anyways, committed some sacrilege. Got this now.
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Well built VW probably can still take you in 1/8 mile....
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Altema
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| Well built VW probably can still take you in 1/8 mile.... |
And a not so well built one could take you for the first 10 feet! I've beaten Dodge Magnums with the 3.5 V6 in 1st and 2nd, but they catch back up in 3rd gear, lol. Still, I'm not gonna even try it with a Falcon Sprint! |
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Jon65
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Sure you can get more power from 2 Webbers, and nothing beats the sound.
They SUCK to tune though, and they make spark plug replacement more difficult. |
Nobody said that HP didn't come with hardships and trade offs. |
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72KYLE
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bugnut68
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| There was a guy here in the NW that had a drag bug with the Johnny's Four Play manifold set up... solid 12-second drag car, as memory serves. Whether it "works" or not is largely dependent upon what one is attempting to accomplish... I personally would rather deal with dual carbs if for not just the proven performance alone. |
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glasguydj
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| I Had a 1641CC with a single 2brl holley and my friend had a 1776 with dual kadrons. I spanked his ass bad! He just knew he was going to leave me in his dust. We raced right down at the beach with a ton of people around. He was soo embarrased. For the longest time he would put me, my 1641CC with my 2barrel holley down and said when ever i wanted some to come get it. Well let me tell ya, Him, his 1776 and his dual carbs got shut the hell downnnn by three car lengths and he shut the hell up!! just thought i would add my 1 cent in... |
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Puck-It
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:22 am Post subject: 4 Barrel Intake with 600 Edelbrock |
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Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and can post negative comments about my set up. It works, I haven't had any problems with it. I've run it off road most of the time without any issues.
It's quite obvious that most of you have NO concept of how an intake manifold works. And, I won't take the time to TRY to explain it to you.
Take the time & learn how carburetion works, then, maybe, just maybe, you'll understand why my set up works.
As for running dual Weber's for 80 yrs. and only have had 1 plugged jet while running in fine beach sand that's total B/S !! |
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miniman82
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