Windshield Seal - wrong one?

guanella74 · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:26 pm Post subject: Windshield Seal - wrong one?

I just went to start the install of a new windshield, and the seal I had purchased a few months back looks like it's perhaps for a bug or something. It measures roughly ~43"x12", whereas the windshield at the top measures some ~52" across and then 17" down if I remember right.

Am I crazy, or do the windshield seals stretch that much to go around the windshield?!

This is for the '70.
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obnoxiousblue · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:41 pm Post subject:

The seal won't stretch that much. You should be able to lay the seal around the edge of the window.
Here's my post on another site, scroll own you can see my seal on the window...
http://www.dasvolks.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=67673#p67673

And step by step shots of the rear window here
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6513608#6513608
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guanella74 · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:43 pm Post subject:

MIke, huge thanks.

BUmmer, it's the wrong seal. I guess I'll give BusDepot a shout and see if I can swap it.

Thanks again,
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1973 Transporter
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obnoxiousblue · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:10 pm Post subject:

Sure thing. My seals were from Bus Depot too. Quality is nice, but I had wanted to get one of the windshield seals with the extended "apron" on the bottom. I just couldn't remember where I had seen it.
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Heisenberg · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:35 pm Post subject:

obnoxiousblue · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:22 pm Post subject:

I haven't, and not for lack of looking.
I remember it being a "thing" a few years back that this seal had a skirt/apron along the bottom that extended down the cowl maybe another 1/8 or so.
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Heisenberg · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:00 pm Post subject:

Mike,

I am going to call around tomorrow (Mid America) to see if they have a wider seal than the "Top of the Line" OEM German seal that I just bought from Bus Depot (it is the same size as the one the I bought from Wolfsburg West).

When I replaced my windshield, I had to do a bit of rust repair on the front ledge. The old seal that I took off (actually cut off) was about 1 1/4" wide (from center slit where glass slides in to the outer edge).

The one I that just came in today from BD is 1 1/8" and does not hide the old paint line where the PO did some work. Would love to be able to cover the old blemishes and the ledge repair (not rust, just different paint color).

Will let you know what I find out...
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Busdepot · Samba Member Joined: March 24, 2004 Posts: 1314

Don't waste your time. We were the ones who had them, way back when. We got them from VW Mexico, but unfortunately they went obsolete several years ago and that was that. This is a year-and-a-half old thread that just got revived. Even when the thread was fresh they were already long gone.

Of course we do have the genuine OEM German windshield seal (with the stock profile), as well as a weld-in metal repair section for under the windshield so you can repair the damage itself.
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RixiesRide · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:29 pm Post subject:

I I got my seal from BD today. It looks so nice compared to the old crusty seal that's on there now. Definitely something I'll have to have installed professionally.
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Heisenberg · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:18 am Post subject:

Wasted youth · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:08 am Post subject:

About a year ago, I purchased a windshield seal from BD, part number 211.845.1210, made in Brazil, April 2012. It was for my 1973 bus, but sat on the shelf until last week, when my new windshield was installed on my 1977 bus by the glass guy. It is a perfect fit, formed well and was an easy install. The install guy told me it was better quality than what he is usually furnished. I cannot say anything about the skirt or length covering paint lines, et. al., because I had repaired all the rust on my windshield frame and repainted the white area.

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obnoxiousblue · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:10 pm Post subject:

I did a metal graft and then replaced the windscreen and the seal with a German seal. I spent about a year chasing a persistent leak that developed after the work was done. I found that the replacement window is micrometers thinner than the original and even the best seals allow water to get between thin glass and the rubber.
Any ideas for a work around, Ron?
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Heisenberg

Well, called Mid America on Monday and Frank answered the phone again (Frank is the super-informed fellow that found the correct 42mm cargo panels for my bus).

Told him I was looking for a wider windshield rubber seal; one that measured more than 1 1/8" or more from the glass insert line to the outer line. He called back and told me that the OEM one was under 1 1/8" and that the lower cost reproduction seal was the one that I needed.

It arrived today and, as promised, it is exactly the seal that I have been searching for. It measures 1 1/2" and will cover up the old paint lines that are now showing from when I put my new windshield in with a Wolfsburg West OEM seal.

I will post photos soon. Having a new custom perforated headliner put in soon, and when they take out my windshield for the headliner install, I will place the the new wider seal on the windshield and will take some before and after photos.

Thanks again to Frank at Mid America - my cargo floor project will also soon be underway (man, I need more time and money). Again, will post before, during, and after photos.
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SGKent · Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:29 am Post subject:

I think what may be going on here is that everyone is assuming the windshield seal they have now is original when it may have been replaced somewhere in the last 40 years.

This is the scenario I am thinking:

Bus made and VW puts in seal
Windshield is replaced with seal that is slightly wider
Bus is re-painted
New seal is installed that is original in size but it is too narrow
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Heisenberg · Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:42 pm Post subject:

You nailed it SGKent. That is EXACTLY what has happened. I purchased a new windshield (sans the tint stripe) because the windshield that was in Stella had a "BB gun" hole.

It was a replacement window, so you are right. When they installed that windshield, they used a wider rubber seal. The PO was too lazy to remove all of the seals for the repaint (uggh) and the older color/repair was now in plain view.

So, when I ordered the OEM seal, it would not hide/cover the PO's work. Luckily, I found the wider seal at Mid America.

Should have some good before and after photos up soon. Oh, also replaced passenger side rear window and the new seal was so dang tight AND smaller in width on the inside. What a bear to put in...
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