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Mr. Odd Ball
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 Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:00 pm Post subject: What is this part? Seat belt center hoop |
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I am puzzled to what this part may be. It has a VW stamp and numbers. I don't know if it part of a latch (door, hood, or bumper). Help greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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srm1956
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| Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Mr Odd Ball . It's a Retractable seat belt mounting for 1970 Karmann Ghia. Picture found in Gallery. If you go to classifieds- search- parts for ghia - seat belts you'll see some for sell.
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Yustrn
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If anyone is looking for one of these ultra rare items please let me know I have some for sale.
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Gary
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| Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:11 am Post subject: |
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That's the securing bar for Lobster Claw seat belts found in Beetle, Ghia, and Type 3 vehicles from the late-60s up to 1971.
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Mr. Odd Ball
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| Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Thank you all for your responses! My confusion has been answered! |
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Herbie3Rivers
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I'd say they were used up until 72. My 72 super has them.
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metalchomper
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My '72 super bought from the original owner does not have them.
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dubllyou
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My '70 doesn't have them either.
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srm1956
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| Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm sure they weren't used in bugs ever. They were used in Ghia's starting August 69 for the 70 model. They had a short life, when they went to a more normal seat belt starting August 72 for the 73 model. If you look through the owners manuals you can see the changes. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:14 am Post subject: |
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I had an early 68' with lobster claw seat belts. The mount looked exactly like the one pictured on the far left in this picture. I don't remember if it had any part #'s on that one or not...
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dubllyou
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They were definitely used in 1967 Beetles.
Other than that I do not know.
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I know they're a little difficult to get out of after a bit of socializing at the local club. A buddy and I sat in the dark for what must have been 15 minutes one night trying to get out of his GF's '67........ 
"WTF, how do you unlatch these %&@#'n things?!.... I gotta pee!!" 
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Gary
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| I'm sure they weren't used in bugs ever. They were used in Ghia's starting August 69 for the 70 model. They had a short life, when they went to a more normal seat belt starting August 72 for the 73 model. If you look through the owners manuals you can see the changes. |
From the August, 1967 Karmann Ghia owner's manual.
The 1968 Owner's manual shows a different style, yet the late-1968 Ghia I parted had lobster claws.
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lemke
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| I have had two daily - driver 1970 Ghias and I currently own a 1971. (Summer car ) ALL of them came with those stone-age seat belts. I must say that I CANNOT STAND those OG seat belts AT ALL - they do not seem safe - I have had them just drop off of that loop while cruising at a reasonable speed on the freeway.( Perhaps it would have helped had I simply lubed them) but instead I ultimately just changed them out with modern VW belts – the conventional belts mounted right up with out any modifications and were RETRACTABLE! (That in itself was a major improvement.) And that satisfying "click" you would hear when engaging them before taking off – was a very reassuring sound. As a modern seat belt - they work using clutches ,pawls and weights just as the seat belts do today, performing just as the modern belts that they are. In my opinion, unless your are hauling a "trailer queen" to shows, MODERN seat belts are ONE of a very few things that should be over looked at cars shows - even by a semi-purists like myself. |
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Chrisstieh
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Neither our 68 nor 69 bug has those belts in them. But they are in my buddies 69 Ghia.
I want them for my 69 bug
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Phoenix Rising
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| Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:58 pm Post subject: Has anyone ever seen these? Bero extra large and cumbersome |
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Mike Fisher
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'67 only Type 3 retractable lap belts. I have them in my '69 square & I love them. 
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Phoenix Rising
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I thought this too from the pictures
But in person these lobster claws are huge and cumbersome. I have the stock 67 Bug style your talking about. It's not those. These don't have any VW stamp or part #. Just the name Bero
I'm baffled. They came in a box with other Vw parts so I'm hoping to get this figured out.
Thx
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1958 Euro Bug 1641DP
1960 VW Bug 1600DP
1963 VW Bug metal sunroof (61 pan/64 Body) w/1776DP and dual Kadrons
1967 VW Bug Euro 1500cc front disk and dropped (for sale) $6,500 (See ad)
1970 VW Bay Bus Deluxe camper 1600DP
Looking for a nice 4 tab hood for my wife's 1960 Bug |
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Ryan Krieger
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I have one if anyone is looking. It's date stamped 1967.
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